2012 Week 4 - New York Jets vs. San Francisco 49'ers Discussion Thread

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  1. BookEndTackles 72&79

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    I heard that 82% of all suicide pool participants on some website (Yahoo??? not sure) are already knocked out of the running. Time for Cowherd to go down I guess. :)
     
  2. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    vernon Davis might have 14 TDs this week
     
  3. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    The 49ers, have zero film to study, to see what Rex's game plan is.

    I'd like to see a return to the muddle huddle in the first half....
     
  4. DemoIsland

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    Their line backers and d-line will eat this jets offense up. Its going to be a bad bad day at the meadowlands.
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Candlestick New Member

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    49er fan checking in.

    Should be a very interesting game. After our first two wins, I looked at the schedule ahead and figured this would be our toughest game prior to the Giants, and it probably still will be.

    The 49ers did come out flat and not play their most intense football, but I will give credit to the Vikings for their intensity and a great game plan. In the modern NFL there are no more gimme games just for showing up. And after what happened last week, that is more clear than ever. Jets are > Vikings in my book.

    For the Jets defense, it will be interesting to see if they adopt the Vikings game plan of stacking the box and trying to take away the short and intermediate routes. In the first two games, Packers & Lions DBs showed a healthy amount of respect for the 49ers receivers and Smith, whereas the Vikings did not (helps to be a spoiler in those cases with nothing to lose). Smith has proven he can move the chains very effectively, but his downfield passing limitations has often been more mental than physical (i.e. doesn't usually throw deep unless it's wide open or game on the line). The one exception is that he has a Joe Montana like connection with Vernon Davis...

    Pass protection is another issue with the 49ers. Even if the 49ers play an awesome game, I can still picture at least 1 or 2 sacks for Smith. The OL is awesome in run game and decent in pass, but should be better given the names.

    Another thing the Vikings did was not bite on play action. They sacrificed some run support to stay on top of the receivers, something the 49ers do themselves with an excellent front 7. I think the Jets should adopt that mentality as well.

    Defensively the 49ers are a lot more proven than offense obviously. Had they taken the Vikings as seriously as the first two teams, I figure they should have won the game on defense alone even if the offense didn't perform up to standard. Only one 100 yard rusher allowed all of last season (Lynch) which includes games against Ray Rice, Lesean McCoy, Cedric Benson, Legarrete Blount.

    The one big concern for the 49ers defense has been that the pass rush hasn't been as violent as we've seen last season. Aldon Smith is now a full time OLB instead of a pass rushing specialist which may be hurting them, and I think league wide the non holding calls is keeping sack totals lower than usual (Giants outside of their last game looked average). It's still early though, and it wasn't elite at the beginning of 2011 compared to the end. The blitz packages do get to the QB quick though.

    Donte Whitner is a bit of a liability in TE pass coverage. It's scary to think that Bowman & Willis might be better than him in that area (esp. Bowman). On the flipside, he has AFC East experience with Buffalo.

    49ers special teams were outstanding last season, and now have fallen a bit in kick coverage. Kyle Williams is doing a nice job filling in for Ted Ginn. Andy Lee is a weapon of a punter, and David Akers rarely disappoints.

    I think the 49ers win this, but probably in typical conservative style by 7-10 points max, unless Jets commit turnovers. All of the 49er games last season that were turnover-less were rather close.

    Good luck to your team, and hopefully no more injuries to either side (a real shame with Revis). BTW, I've lived in NYC for many years so like the Jets. I want a win this weekend, but an a** kicking of the other NY team in 3 weeks. :)
     
  7. TommyJ

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    The Jets do have a way of surprising us, both ways, winning and losing. I'd have signed up for 2-1 anyday at this point, not including the Revis injury.
     
  8. dreamsfloatjoe

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    Let's just say that the wrong coast is going to win. :sad:
     
  9. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Pittsburgh?

    Davis will catch at least one TD Sunday.
     
  10. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    O/U is 16.

    I guess you're taking the under.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Ummm...Revis played in Pittsburgh, and the Miami game were last minute adjustments.

    He's going to have to change the scheme, with Revis out.

    No Film.
     
  12. illipinoG

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    I'm sure that the jets will give us a show; however, whether it's good or bad is up in the air. Yes, we're missing a crucial part of our defense, but I haven't lost faith in them. Let the youngbloods play some ball, I want to see if they can produce. I'm feeling that our offense should start hitting their groove soon, hopefully this weekend. I understand a lot of people on this forum love to hate Sanchez, but he's what we got, I'm gonna keep rooting for him.
     
  13. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    No Revis did not play in Pitt. He missed it with a concussion in fact he didn't even fly out of NY.
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    I don't know if this has been posted but I thought it was worth noting.

    The 49ers did not travel back to San Francisco following their game with the Vikings. I always look for West Coast teams to have a sluggish start in games on the East Coast when they travel but being they are currently in Ohio preparing for the game this eliminates one advantage I thought the Jets would have.
     
  15. Barcs

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    It should probably be noted that the Jets were 6-2 at home last year, but 2-6 on the road. This game is winnable, the defense just needs to put the sauce on Gore and I'm not worried about Alex Smith. If our offense can put at least 24, we win. It's up to Sanchez. Has it been determined yet if Keller is playing? I haven't heard anything, but he's critical if we are to stand a chance against that D.
     
  16. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Revis played in Pittsburgh? News to me. Lmao.
     
  17. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Sunday was also San Francisco's first 10:00 am PCT loss under Jim Harbaugh. They're now 5-1. They stayed at the exact same location in Ohio last year after beating the Bengals and playing the Eagles the following Sunday, who they also beat.

    The Jets only advantage is that we're home (and that's extremely slight with our crowd) and that we SHOULD be pissed off that everyone's writing us off and come out guns blazing. Other than that, SF has the advantage in every other way.
     
  18. talisaynon

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    Yea don't think we'll win this. I just ask that Sanchez not go into a shell like the Baltimore game last year. I've had enough of that from him.

    Man up.
     
  19. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    That's asking a lot from Sensitive 6.

    I think you're right by comparing this game to Baltimore last year, too. Unless some miracle happens, it should be very similar.
     
  20. talisaynon

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    I think Austin Howard probably gets beaten worse than a red headed stepchild and Frank Gore runs for 125. I really don't see us winning this the more I think about it.

    Like I said it's all on Mark. If he can make throws we can make it competitive but I really don't see it.
     

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