Yeah, Holmes did good. Probably some others I missed too. My post was mostly impressions and not a real break down. You guys pwn me doing that.
Nah you were spot on for most player. Nobody really stood out. Even Revis missed a tackle before he got hurt.
Agree. The only coach with any real Tebow specific plays is Westhoff. All the other talk was just 1st grade "made you look" idiocy.
Yea Tebow had nothing to do with that interception. Whoever that ball was to ran their route too long. Anyway, the use of Tebow has been abysmal. The Jet's need to use him in short yardage plays. Or maybe use it on first downs and not use it consistently on third downs. Or maybe use it more than 10 percent of total plays.
I think they need to start with short yardage and work backwards from there. When you run it on first down, you create this condundrum -- if it doesn't do anything, you feel like you've started a series of downs in the hole. If it works, you think "Well, why take him out." I say start with 3rd and short (or even 4th and short), and specialize first in picking up a guaranteed push for 2 to 3 yards. The variations and even passes can proceed from there -- keeping the defense honest with variety.
I think he was effective and just having him as a threat is forcing other teams to prepare for him. Wouldn't surprise me to see him used like this for another couple of weeks before having him play-action out of the zone read and drop it over the top of the defense. As long as the green team wins I would say that whatever the game plan is, is effective.
Probably one, because the Jets have been in numerous 3rd and longs. And second, I think the Jets would rather have their normal offense out there if they got it to 3rd and short. If it's second a short, same thinking. Tebow is going to be brought it on a lot of first downs if the Tebowcat is being run. I don't have a problem with that. If he pickes up 2-4 yards, it's like a normal running play. The RZ I have a huge problem with and was annoyed once he lined up as QB there.
You should probably take a look at sanchez's comeback stats before making a comment like that. I think they should be using tebow more on 3rd and short situations and don't get why they aren't. I thought that was kind of the point of trading for him. The fake punt was nice.
I prefer letting him simply run off tackle on a power as opposed to the RZ as the RZ simply takes time to develop and thus gives the backs more time to adjust.
It just seems when they run a play outside of the tackles with the " whatever cat" it fails miserably , for goodness sakes just put Tebow in a spread option and let him , run , pass or handoff but it feels like they are telling him, " do not throw the ball " that's fine then, run him between the tackles .
Tebow was never anything that special with "I'm going to run it on first and ten, when you know I'm going to run, and get lots of yards." May as well have McKnight run it if that's what you want -- a big play. Where he's good is when you spread it out, empty backfield, and 3rd and 4. You're thinkin "Crap. I can't sell out against the run, he'll throw it. But if I don't really dig in and plug all gaps, that load can fall for 4 yards." And Tebow is great at standing back there, looking at the alignment, and picking a hole (or calling a play by audible) that gets that short yardage.
First part: Stats don't make plays. Second part: To use Tim as you suggest becomes so predictable that opponents scheme to neutralize it. Many of us have seen that happen. Tim's reputation for 'willing his team to win' came from Tim using sheer determination for overcoming the bad play calling (plays were predictable) of Steve Addazio, the OC at Florida. Actually without the talent of the 2009 Gator team overall, there probabley would be no championship. Out of all the play suggestions for Tim I've read here, both the intentionally antagonistic ones and the sincere ones, I have yet to hear something that would be a net possitive. Designing Tim plays requires taking into consideration what happens to Mark if Tim is successful and that presents an almost insurmountable problem.
Let me start by saying, I am not pro-Tebow at QB. I am not pro-Wildcat. But if we must have Wildcat, Tebow is probably one of the better options (nod to Brad Smith for speed). And should we have a Wildcat package with Tebow, and Tebow be used as a receiver and blocker, and one special teams... who is the backup QB? You may say, well, Tebow is the backup QB. Sure essentially he has to be because McElroy is on the inactive list every week. But I was OK to some extent seeing Tebow's role as a football player expanded today, but I have concern seeing the "backup QB" being used in such a physical way. If Tebow injures his wrist on a punt, he will stay in the game as most football players do. But if Sanchez gets injured, Tebow may no longer be a viable "backup QB" with an injured wrist. The risk/reward is dangerous here if we don't carry an emergency QB.
I was referring to the number of come back victories he has had in his career. They usually require the QB to make plays. You'd know that he had in fact made a lot of plays in come back victories if you were a Jet fan. Feel free to look it up.
I know Mark's comeback stats are decent. The Tebowmania stat gurus have posted the numbers. By percentage they are equal to or better than Tim's IIRC. My reason for saying stats don't make plays is to recognize stats reflect the past and may not necessarily address a players performance in the future. To rely on future performance of a player by using their stats suggest that Eli Manning and his team will win the SB 25% of the remaining seasons he plays. A performance projection by stats I seriously doubt. Thanks for recognizing I am currently a Jet fan. I say currently because, who knows, I may die in a car accident tomorrow.
You're arguing about something that has nothing to do with the comment you original quoted. And I don't consider any of you march '12 tebois Jets fans. You're Tebow fans.
