Apologists and their excuses for Sanchez’s failures

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I still think this season is mostly about, or should be, figuring out whether Sanchez stays or goes. But of course deciding that might not be so simple, as would be the case if, on one hand, Sanchez improves enough to be mid pack as a starting Qb, with a rating somewhere in that mid teens range. That would be pretty good, and he might well end up there if he keeps the turnovers down. Conversely if he shows no improvement, or plays even worse than last year, he should be shitcanned.

    Of course he may well end up in the middle, or even more than that the reasons for it may not be clear, having failed to isolate him as the variable, with a shabby running attack, mediocre receivers other than Holmes, that sort of thing. Then what?
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Giants went 10-6 Eli Manning's 4th season. They'd have gone 14-2 with Tom Brady. Of course Eli put the 20 interceptions and 9 fumbles behind him at the end of the year and the Giants won the Super Bowl. So he was the guy.

    2007 is not his high year on turnovers though. 2010 he beat it with 25 Int's and 5 fumbles.

    My point in all this is that with Sanchez displayed skills the Jets can clearly win a Super Bowl at this point. It's the people around him that are not up to the task. In 2009 Sanchez was the issue but in 2012 it's most of the rest of the offense.

    Put Tom Brady on this team right now and the Jets are not going 14-2 and they're certainly not winning the Super Bowl.
     
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  4. blEEdgrEEnaLLyEEr

    blEEdgrEEnaLLyEEr New Member

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    I'm from NJ man. I live 5 minutes from MetLife in Elmwood park nj. Yeah I've heard a lot of racist comments about Sanchez like "dirty Sanchez" but this area is the biggest mixing bowl of ethnicities. Never heard your never winning with a "Mexican QB" if I did I'd slap that person cause ethnicity has nothing to do with his ability to play QB or any other professional sport. Just saying, that's a bit racist.
     
  5. displacedfan

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    Even if we can't tell after this season, would surrounding him with more offensive talent be a bad thing? If it doesn't work with Sanchez, you still have a highy skilled offense. If it does work, you have your highly skilled offense with a QB.
     
  6. GRNYT

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    hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
     
  7. Barcs

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    Save that quote for the end the season.
     
  8. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Meh. Part of the problem is Sanchez takes up far too much cap space considering the tepid results he delivers. At least so far. If he didn't there would be more resources to spend elsewhere on O.

    The main reason I don't consider myself more opposed to him than not is that I know how much time and effort it might well take if the Jets change him out. (Unless and I know the odds are against it somehow McElroy could deliver.) But that cuts both ways, of course. If at the end of this year the confidence in him going forward is just not there, the Jets would be stupid not to go somewhere else.

    My fear as I said yesterday is it will not be a clear cut decision. I don't have faith in the FO in a case like that. That kind of case is one where other considerations become paramount, like their rather odd view of how to market the team.

    My hope is Sanchez at least improves enough to make his case to stay. You know, that would be f'ing great.
     
  9. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    It is week 2 we blow out a good Bills team and had chances to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and you say we can't win the Superbowl? How in the hell do you know and why so negative. It is not like we were blown out or that our offense did not score 40+ points.

    There is just no reason to be negative right now none our receiving is young but with a ton of potential our QB has only thrown one Pic and none from the pocket. You have been negative before the season so one tough game and the sky is falling this is the NFL.

    Look how bad Cam and the Panthers looked last night look how good the Giants looked and how bad they looked against the Cowboys the Raven lose to the Eagles. This is the NFL we are young team a savy veteran team got the best of us not the end of the world.

    The fucking pathetic part is you come on hear after a loss and see threads about making excuses for Sanchez and Sanchez sucks. He was the highest rated QB in week one struggled week 2. Should Drew Brees go he looked like shit the first two games. Cam sucked it up last night and the spread option bull shit was exposed should Cam go. Peyton sucked against the falcons and Rodgers sucked against the niners should they go?

    Shit Sanchez did not even have two bad weeks he had one great one mediocre to bad. The Jets are 1-1 on top of the division with a pretty good chance of going 2-1.

    I would have at least expected the sky is falling until after the Miami game. Who actually expected us to beat the Steelers in Pitt?

    With that being said the Jets have to get better. They have to get better on D but IMHO need to run the ball better. I have admit Green has looked like shit but Mcknight seems to be pretty deep in the dog house we need him to step up.

    Stop trying to so hard to be right and only see the things that make you right. See things they way the are you maybe right but there is also a pretty good chance you are not.

    We beat Miami and win one of the Pats, Niners, Texans game the rest of the season sets up nice for the Jets.
     
  10. Jtuds

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    You make a lot of good points but dude, try using a comma once in a while.

    Because when you don't use commas it is really really hard to know where one thought stops and the next thought begins because everything is just one big run on sentence and run on sentences are annoying to read because they just seem to go on and on forever like an endless stream of words that has no ending and eventually the reader just gives up because they don't know where it is going and even though you may have been making a good point it might be rendered obsolete by the fact that you lost the reader along the way so try using a commas or a period or if you want to get really crazy maybe even use a semicolon but don't just write and write and write you could make your point much more clearly if you took a breath once in a while and broke up the post into separate thoughts that's just my 2 cents take it or leave it but I dont think I'm the only one around here who would make that recommendation because a lot of people have made similar comments to posters in the past you are not the worst of them though and that's all I have to say on that.

    See what I mean?
     
  11. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    Point noted
     
  12. Br4d

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    I'm negative on the Jets right now because they don't have the personnel for me to be positive.

    You guys see me hammering on things like a weak WR corps and slow linebackers and you think I'm looking for reasons to bash the Jets. I'm not. I'm just noting what I see in front of me.

    That's the one thing that has remained constant in all the years that I've been posting here. I'm not right all the time because sometimes the Jets catch some breaks for a season and things go right for them. More often though the breaks are even or go the other way and then unfortunately I'm right.
     
  13. cval

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    Its week 2 they are 1-1. The Jets young receivers played great week 1 struggled week 2. You fail to give credit for week 1 and focus on week 2.

    Hill and Kerley have shown signs they are still very young. You may not be looking for reasons to bash but you are bashing with a very small sample size. The WR bashing is only based on one week because they looked in the other.

    If mid way through the season the Jets are sucking it up go ahead and bash but after week 2 when the Jets played great week 1 is just not fair and looking for reasons to bash.

    You can pick apart every team in the NFL the way you are doing the Jets stop it.
     
  14. NewYorkEveryThing

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    The giants did not have nicks and still smashed the panthers.If not for our defense putting up 17 against the bills.We might have lost that one because our offense went flat after the first half.So when does sanchez start to get some of the blame?Eli manning was without one of the best backs in the nfl and nicks and seems like he can make others better.Sanchez can not and everything has to be right for him.Holmes was a pro bowl super bowl mvp who only had off the field troubles and now he stinks.Why?He forgot how to play football?
     
  15. abyzmul

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    Santonio Holmes has broken 1000 yards exactly once in his career, and has had more than 55 catches exactly once in his career, and was plagued with drops and criticized for effort and general douchebaggery for his first three seasons.

    It was right before a contract year where he had an impending four game suspension, and after his ultra-amazing SB MVP performance that he was traded to a conference rival for a bag of Corn Nuts and an autographed Joe Namath memorabilia mug.

    And then he got paid. And started dogging it again.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  16. KWJetsFan

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    Here's a crazy Sanchez stat:

    Last week he completed 10 of 27 passes. That's the fifth sub-40% game of his career. That's the most in the NFL since 2009. Next on the list is JaMarcus Russell, who did it three times.

    I like Mark and I'm still hoping he develops into a true franchise QB. I just thought that was a funky stat.
     
  17. BleednGreen247

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    WRs are average / suck

    Running game and backs are pure shit

    How is it possible every team in the NFL can find and plug in running backs but the Jets have 0

    Smh
     
  18. displacedfan

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    Yeah, I mean we all figured going in this was make or break for Sanchez. For two games, his turnover numbers are down which is good. He isn't throwing passes at defenders. He hasn't overly checked down. Obviously only a two game sample size, but if we get something inbetween week 1 and week 2 we are looking at a decent offense and a playoff team
     
  19. NewYorkEveryThing

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    I am sick of him.he is garbage.
     
  20. dthomas53

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    Still giving him this last season before I write him off. But he is not playing well so far this game. He's not getting much help with the drops, but part of it is his play, too.
     

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