my hope right now is that tanny will turn his attention to that side of the ball this next offseason and find a playmaker.if this offense had one guy who made a dc sweat this team could be a serious contender.
Sanchez was never the same after he took that big hit from Timmons, but with that said some fans always defend Sanchez to the grave, Its year 4 by the end of this season we will know who Mark Sanchez is
Yes, because one of the best running backs at that time (Tiki) retiring on his own volition was a great job improving the team by the GM.
Sanchez is an average QB, someone who can win on a good team but by no means an elite QB who will wow you and put a team on his back. That's my assessment based on his career not just this game. It's not a knock, I don't think he has much more upside, he has reached his potential, and in my opinion is good enough if he is surrounded with the right players. Good enough to win a Superbowl well that's pushing it. As for the poster who pointed out he's no Luck etc. Well of course he isn't, those are 1st round, 1st picks, comparing apples to oranges, or cherry picking the exceptions that turned out good. Josh Freeman went just after Sanchez the same year rather have him? We lost to the Steelers because they're a better team with a better QB, Coach, Defense, WR... No one expected us to win, well only those who who thought we were on our way to the superbowl after we beat the Bills. The problem with the Jets is we are a bit one dimensional. Bam Holmes kills the Steelers on the first couple of drives. They adjust by taking him away. Ok so now who are you going to beat us with? Answer.... no one. And that was the game in a nut shell. I actually though Sanchez played pretty well. Our defense let them score all those points, our receivers dropped all those balls, Revis out, Greene hurt, Sanchez was the least of our worries.
From watching every game Sanchez has played for the Jets I'd say he has improved every year..until midway through last season where he and the rest of the team just completely lost it. The first 6 quarters of this season have arguably seen him at his best...he made some poor decisions and poor throws in the second half but was completely left out to dry by holmes and co, a deteriorating running game, dumb penalties and the O-line. It amazes me how many people analyse what is actually quite a complex sport by putting the entire performance of a team on 1 player. That said, recent evidence is - and the way the league is going with offensive favourability - that you need a great QB to win a SB. I hope the team gives him at least the entirety of the season (as long as we remain in contention) to prove himself
you know what, I just think the Jets did a horrible job developing him. Good coaches gameplan around their players, but it really seemed like they never did that, and tried to mold and force him into something hes not at the beginning. A game manager, a guy that doesn't have to try to win, but rather not lose. Look at RG3 and Alex Smith. They're gameplanning towards their players' strengths. Also just the amount of changes to the WR and RB position hurt his development as well. I think the talent and playmaking ability is there, I just feel like they need to do a better job in his development.
also im tired of "well peyton played bad this week" what the fuck does that have to do with sanchez? im basing my assessment on sanchez's whole career, not just one week where peyton had an off day. PEYTON IS A TOP 5 NFL QB OF ALL TIME! "sanchez isnt as bad as people say he's merely average" well than why the shit did we draft him with the 5th pick? on draft day 3 1/2 yrs ago, did anyone of you when we took sanchez that high expect to have a qb that the best we could expect every week is him not to lose the game? to have a QB that we need to surround with tons of talent so that he doesnt suck?? of course not, we wanted a franchise qb that would be what stafford or ryan have become or what luck and newton are probably going to become (and no one better fucking say that sanchez has won 4 playoff games and stafford and ryan havent won shit because im talking about quarterback ability right now and not team success) anyone that can honestly say right now that they arent disappointed by sanchez given where we drafted him is flat out lying to themselves, the comparisons to eli are absurd, eli never looked half as awful as sanchez does sometimes. eli always had the physical tools to play quarterback but he just sometimes made poor decisions. sanchez looks absolutely lost on the field most of the time in ways that manning never did.
I agree too, I don't understand pointing that out at all. Peyton is proven so he gets the benefit of the doubt when he has a bad game. I agree with this as well, when you take a qb with the 5th pick you expect him to come in and be impactful out the gate. He has had his moments but overall he's been average. With that said we have to give Sanchez until the end of the 2013 season, by then we should have an idea of what kind of qb Sanchez is. Some QBs start off slow and become good, others play well from the start. Lets find out if Sanchez is a slow starter, or he just sucks.
Why didnt you post like this-articulate and explanatory- rather than the wiseass, derogatory manner you posted the first time? would have gotten a better response...
We are comparing Mark Sanchez with Peyton Manning? Oh my bad, we are comparing him to Peyton Manning who missed a year, is only at 80%, is old, and had major injusry concerns. LOL. Go Jets!
There are very few elite QB's in the league too. Maybe 5 right now. Sanchez isn't elite, I don't think anyone is arguing that either. I'm arguing that Sanchez is a good enough QB to win a SB on THIS team. We were almost there 2 years with him, and I think if we can make the playoffs he can help us win games there.
No, it's not crazy to think he could have been concussed. That doesn't mean you state it as fact and base your argument on it, which is what he did. To me, that's not intelligent dialogue, that's an apologist.
I would hardly say your position has no merit. It certainly has merit to the extent you are saying that honest, non-trolling darksiders need to take into account the good games, the good plays, in order to have any cred even if they end up with a mostly negative take on the team's situation or prospects. And posters, if this is a fair charge, who only post after losses and do not refer to earlier, better moments do risk their cred being attacked. But fwiw I tend to take posters who show up after losses to complain as to be expected. I of course post after wins and losses, and while I consider myself a realist and not reflexively a darksider, no doubt some of the super homers here consider me to be a darksider. But that's just me. For example the point here about Sanchez - he's making plenty of money, he was the fifth pick in the draft, even if he shows some progress is he really where should be? - that's a fair criticism as fair as I am concerned. It concerns me about him, even if I want him to succeed. I think it should concern all of us, frankly. From that point of view a game like Buffalo runs the risk of being a mirage. One after all can accept the good games and still end up recognizing that on balance consistency remains a problem with Sanchez. Now if someone makes this point after only losses, yeah, I can see that is a problem for their cred. But the point itself retains some validity, if perhaps less than if it better took into account Sanchez's more productive moments. Having said all that, I do have an issue with Sanchez Fans who do not acknowledge his shortcomings and blame every other facet of the team for their overall failures and shortcomings.
You're right, he looked scared at the rush (cant say that I wouldnt also if my helmet was turned to the side). I have been one of his biggest supporters, yet I will no longer blame it on anyone else when the team plays poorly. Its been 2 games with a new offensive coordinator. 5 dominant quarters 3 poor quarters. There are plenty of good qb's who have had 3 poor quarters this season, cough Eli, Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, the difference is that they have all proven themselves where Sanchez hasnt. However, I will wait more than 2 games to say if week 1 was the real Sanchez or if week 2 is the real Sanchez. Finally, I think Big Blocker finally makes a good point about Sanchez. He was the 5th overall pick, people make excuses for him. Put up or shut up in year 4.
it is one fucking game what is so hard to understand? He played great in week 1 struggled in the second half of week 2. Judging on his whole career he is only in his fourth season. Nobody is blindly defending Sanchez but he played great week 1 struggled in week 2 in Pittsburgh. Do you guys want him to fail it is just amazing the level of idiocy. Cant read defenses stares down receivers? He has thrown one pick this year and it had nothing to do with not being able to read defenses or staring down receivers. The passing game is about timing and crisp route running Holmes, Kerley and Hill were running horrible routes. There is a reason none of the talking heads where jumping on Sanchez this week because anybody with a half of a football brain knows this was not on him but his receivers. By week 8 and Sanchez is still sucking go ahead jump on him but week 2 when he has played played well is just well stupidity. It is OK for Peyton Manning with a new team learning a new offense a 13+ year vet to have a bad game but a young 4th year QB with average and young receivers and a new offense has a bad game throw him out with the bath water. I get it the Idiocy has reached an all time high. Go back watch the game judge it on performance not your hatred for the Jets QB. Is Mark an average QB I dont know id he elite not yet can he be sure will he be no idea he is a fourth year QB. Based on the first two games Mark has the ability but give him a chance to prove it. Aaron Rodgers did not start until his fourth year and Sanchez is looking about the same as Aaron thus far in year four. Hold off and lets see what he does.
Something to note...First drive Sanchez was very SHARP. After that helmet to helmet knock by Timmons, Sanchez all of a sudden was unable to play well.
I am just sick of that puss face sanchez has when things are not going his way.Yes.Our wr's are not the best in the league.Our ground game is weak and some of our starters are out here and there.Eli manning was getting killed by the giants fan base after his second and third years.This is 2012 and sanchez is not a rookie.So maybe it is time for a change.Tebow is not a great qb,But at least he craves to play and just wants a chance.How many chances is sanchez gonna get.To me.The feeling I have feels a lot like last year.Wasted.I don't care that sanchez can look great against the bills.There the bills.I am glad tebow is here cause believe me.A couple of bad loses and he will be done.And if tebow can do something then great.If not look for a new qb next year.Also I am sick of hearing that it was one game or 2 AFC championship games.No one cares.I am also sick of the giant fans torching us every minute they get.My family are all giant fans and I cannot take no more of"You cannot win a super bowl with a mexican QB".I am sorry if it sounds racist but every jet fan has herd that one at least once.Matt moore out played him last year.Yeah matt moore.If it was not for our number one defense in 2009 and the number three defense in 2010.Sanchez would be a bust and everyone knows it.
