Oh, didn't say advantage, just saying we're not all that far away necessarily if we limit the TO's. Not even saying you won't win, just saying I don't see how a blowout would happen either (again, if we limit the TO's). Our D-line is excellent. Forget about running the ball, it just won't happen. There are holes in our secondary that you can exploit if you give Sanchez time, though. While I don't expect the Dolphins will run for 260 yards again against you, I do expect us to have some success running the ball, which may help Tannehill get us to the 10-14 point range. If you come to play, and we limit the TO's, I see something in the range of a 17-13 or 20-14 Jets win, but not a blowout by any means. This is not the Buffalo defense you're facing.
Alright well I give a pretty damn good unbiased breakdown so here goes. Tannehill has been about what you expect from a rookie QB who wasn't supposed to start this early. Locks onto his receivers sometimes, particularly now that he has taken a liking to Hartline. He is late on a lot of his throws, including comeback routes, so they can be jumped by an athletic CB. Luckily he has a gun on him so even when he is late on throws he usually makes up for it with his strong arm. Running backs, Reggie is as dangerous as they come if he can break it outside. Up the middle I fear every play that he is going to fumble it or get injured. He hasn't been used too much in the passing game just yet. O-line has been shaky and inconsistent and that includes Jake Long. He had trouble with JJ Watt last week and had a couple penalties against the Raiders. The right side of the line can be exploited as Jerry and rookie Jonathan Martin are both weak spots. As for the TE/WR corp, you guys probably know there is nobody special, although Hartline and Tannehill have developed chemistry already. Hartline isn't a world beater by any stretch of the imagination but he runs great routes, has great hands, and is good at tapping his toes on the sideline. Bess has been a solid WR from the slot position in the past but he hasn't been much of a factor in the new offense so far. Everybody else basically sucks, especially Naanee. Defense The D-line is definitely the strength of this defense and this team and I think has improved from the switch from 3-4, to 4-3. Wake has been bringing the pressure and Odrick has been disruptive on the other side, although his strength is run stuffing. Soliai and Starks especially are run stuffing monsters in the middle. Good luck getting a power run game going against this front 4. They held Darren McFadden to 22 yards on 11 carries and held the Raiders to 23 rushing yards total. The linebackers are relatively slow so if you guys can get an outside run game going you can have success. Dansby is a good all around MLB. He is good at almost everything but not great at any one think I don't think. Burnett is average. Same with Misi, although I will say Misi has played much better this year as a 4-3 OLB than he did as a 3-4 OLB which is not surprising. The secondary I don't even want to talk about. With Vontae gone Sean Smith and Richard Marshall trade off on the #1 WR. Sean has his moments but still gets beat routinely. His tackling has improved. Marshall is fairly average from what I have seen so far. Better at guarding the slot guy than he is on the outside I would say. The safeties are average. Reshad Jones is pretty damn good in run support but too agressive in coverage. Chris Clemons will drive you crazy as he will be in great coverage but won't adjust to the ball and gives up catches. So I would say your best bet is to try to get an outside run game going as the linebackers are fairly slow and take poor angles to the sidelines. Dansby can still be beat by a good receiving TE or a fast back. Our corners can be beat if our pass rush is slow to get to the QB. As for shutting down our O, as most of you probably know, don't let Reggie get outside because he can turn a small gain into a TD with one sidestep. Tannehill hasn't made any incredibly dumb mistakes under pressure yet but the potential is there. Bring some pressure and our WRs probably won't be able to get any separation since they will be outmatched by your DBs.
I think Reggie is a game breaker but the bolded is why I think the Jets win. it might be close because division games are always tough but Rex Ryan Defenses just eat rookie QBs for breakfast. Its nothing against Tannehill because I think it will happen to Luck as well. Reggie Bush has looked great but I see our Offense being able to put up points. No Vontae Davis anymore and our O line should be able to handle the Phins pass rush better than last year. Sparano knows the Phins better than anyone so I believe we will be able to put up points and find ways to move the ball. You should never take a game for granted though in the NFL and coming off a loss I don't think the Jets will take this game lightly.
Nope! Now, Sanchez could very well throw for 350-plus yards, though. Again, if he has time. Our D-line has been stout against the run, but hasn't exactly generated an overwhelming amount of pass pressure. Better against the Raiders yesterday, but not nearly enough.
Well, put it this way, T-hill is a rook, and has a rook QB, he is always subject to a meltdown, which is possible. Frankly, if I were Rex, I'd throw the kitchen sink at him from down 1 and make him beat me. Just go balls out to put pressure on until he beats me. Give him a truly "welcome to the NFL" game. I think that's the only way you really will blow us out, and it is possible. We will stop the run, though, so it's on Sanchez to take advantage of his opportunities, and there will be opportunties, especially in the middle of the field. Like I said in my last post, we are a monster against the run, but don't necessarily put a lot of pressure on the QB. But, Wake gets his shot against your Hunter replacement this week, so I guess we'll see if that improves this week. I actually do hope you go all out against T-hill. I want to see how he responds, up or down. If you do go all out, and he beats the blitz, well then yeah for us and our future. If not, I want him to get this beating out of the way sooner than later so he can learn from it.
Me too. These are the games I really enjoy to watch. The Defense just pins its ears back and rushes 7 all the time. Saying ok try and throw to your receivers. If Revis plays I think Tannehill will end up making some costly mistakes. I don't really think it will be a blow out like the Bills game was unless there is pick 6s. I think it will be more like 24-10. Maybe I'm trusting Sparano too much but he seems to be able to game plan well so I'm expecting our O to come out with a good plan and get a good start. Sparano knows the Phins personnel very well. From what I remember the Phins D this year looks a lot like last years personnel wise minus Vontae Davis.
If we play the same way we did the first half against the Steelers, this could be a repeat of last week...
Oh, one true advantage that we have is the SoFla heat in September. Just ask the Raiders about it. They were gassed by the fourth quarter. If you don't have a good lead on us by then, it will be to our advantage. Think about it, the Jets as currently constructed really haven't experienced it. In '09 and '10, the games were at night, and last year, it was in January. It really is something. For the longest time, it was a huge advantage for us - something our owner took a way for a couple years, but, thankfully, brought back this year.
Sparano is a good coach, don't let anybody tell you different. He's got his faults, but he's not stupid. It will be interesting to see what he does to try to take advantage of a front seven that is basically the same thing he left last year. No matter what, it still comes down to Sanchez. He is so up and down anyways, and his play against us over the years is a great example. In '09, he he had a great game in Miami, but so-so later in NY. Same thing even more dramatically in '10 - awesome in Miami, pathetic in NY. Last year, it was reversed. But up and down. Which one shows up Sunday? I'm not sure T-hill is quite ready for what he's about to see. Neither the Texans nor Raiders came at him the way Rex will. Part of his NFL education.
Unlike the previous two games where I thought NYJ would lose, this one I had a good feeling about. However, we cannot resort to trying to run the ball up on them because unless we have Arian Foster, its just not going to work. We can however throw in the air on that secondary of theirs which isn't all that scary(Carson Palmer with hardly any weapons destroyed them). I think Sanchez can have a 300+ yard day if allowed to and add 2 TDs(And a pick I guess since he always has one vs Miami) and I feel Sanchez will really need to be the man responsible if we want a win. Defense should do its job, the sacks Ben shook off on Sunday Tannehill will not this Sunday. Likewise, Tannehill like a lot of QBs will get shook and confused with the type of packages Rex has instilled on defense. Happened to Fitzpatrick and I will not be shocked if Tannehill has a Ryan Fitzpatrick week 1 type of performance where he just looks outmatched, ESPECIALLY if Revis plays and takes out Hartline. Fasano does scare me against Landry/Bell's coverage skills and Bess is an annoying 3rd down converter if given the ball in the proper space but I am not worried about them on offense. Reggie Bush is the real deal but with Pouha back, Bush's only way of doing damage is on RB screens, on slants or trying to cut back outside on a run. Bush as a receiver scares me more as if we blitz Tannehill(Which we will do imo), the ultimate weapon to combat a blitz is a perfectly timed RB screen....so obviously we better be prepared for a few of those. I forsee quite a bit of batted balls against Tannehill led by Wilkerson and Coples. I'll save my prediction for the thread when that comes but finally this year....I am actually siding with the Jets in this game even with the injuries.
Lamar Miller and his crazy uphill speed actually worry me because I can definitely see Philbin throwing up a end around with Miller taking the ball and going after us on the outside and catching us for a 20+ yard gain. He might be the darkhorse weapon for you guys. He's somewhat similar to CJ Spiller(Not as experienced granted) so definitely cannot take Miller for granted. Its funny that Miami needs a power back like Greene or Powell and the Jets need a speedster back like Bush or Miller. We each have something the other team needs at RB.
Yeah he definitely has some speed. I'd like to see him in the screen game or on an end around but haven't seen that yet. The trouble with him is he is very poor in pass protection, but then again so is Reggie.
That's why I fear him as a pure gadget player and just that. Yeah like most rookie RBs, his pass protection will be shaky but if you do something like an end around with him....then he could be off for the races. He had some fumbling/durability issues if I recall at the U(Cost him a spot in the first 3 rounds in fact) so he really should not be someone you run up the middle but as a gadget type of a player? He can be deadly against the Jets. I have trust in Pettine/Rex to sniff out anything but speed is speed and our LBs have slow feet in the open.
Reggie Bush might be playing well, but our run defense is just as good as Miami's run defense. I realize the Bills and Steelers don't have great offensive lines, but our down lineman were in the backfield before the ball was even handed off in these two games. If you look at the two games that the Jets have played, the Steelers really had nothing on the ground. 66 yards on 28 carries. It probably would have been 50 yards if Bart Scott knew how to tackle. Against Buffalo, the stats are very deceiving. Yes, they did have 195 yards on 26 carries, but most of those yards were from two long runs from Spiller on plays where he simply just broke tackles. The Jets have an absolutely dominant defensive line against the run. Don't be fooled because we don't have an all name defensive line. We might not have defensive lineman that pile up all those sacks like the Giants, but against the run, there probably isn't a better defensive line in the NFL. If Revis plays, I could easily see Tannehill throwing three or four INT's. Not because he is bad or anything, but its going to be a nightmare for such an inexperienced QB with no weapons to face a Rex Ryan defense.
This is going to be a close game. The Bills are the exception, but division games generally stay close. Reggie Bush might actually succeed better going back to his old running style of bouncing everything to the outside against the Jets. Going up the middle is tough on them. He also can be dangerous in the pass game taking screens and etc. The Dolphins can't get into long passing downs especially if Revis is back. The Jets obviously want to get the Dolphins into long passing downs. They should be able to pass on the Dolphins but the run game looks like it might be tough. Powell should be used more if Greene isn't 100%. I think it's going to come down to how Reggie and Tannehill protect the ball, and I think the Jets are going to force turnovers.
Dude, come on. Take those Dolphins glasses off. I will take my Jets glasses off as well. The Jets are probably in the range of 10-16 in terms of NFL teams. The Dolphins are in the 26-32 range. The Dolphins beating the Raiders was just a case of a bad team beating a bad team, one team has to win. I guess the Dolphins aren't the worst team in the NFL, but it would be idiotic to think that because of one win that they are even going to win more than four or five games. Add in the fact that Tannehill is going to have a nightmare against the Jets defense, and its quite possible that he throws three of four INT's. We don't even need to play that well offensively. Miami isn't going to score much, so we aren't going to need more than 15 points to win. I don't doubt that the Dolphins have a good a very good defense, I don't even think the Jets will play that well offensively. I expect the Jets to score somewhere from 10-20 points, but the Dolphins aren't going to be able to score enough points to win. Maybe its a low scoring game, in that case, it would probably be "close", but there is next to no shot that the Dolphins win if the Jets have their injured players back. The Jets coaching staff aren't idiots. They are not going to run on the Dolphins, it won't work, they will throw the ball a lot. Unless Sanchez matches Tannehill playing horribly, the Dolphins have no chance to win. Sure, if Sanchez has three or four INT's, the Dolphins could score a defensive TD or two and win a 14-10 game or a 17-10 game, but what are the chances of that happening?
they might not have an advantage, but how far ahead of them are we in all areas? do we have a great pass or run game? do we have a much better pass rush? much better pass protection? 2 reggie bush plays on offense or special teams and we could be staring at 1-2. this game will likely be close, at least for the majority of it
