Serious question...How can the Jets beat the Steelers week 2?

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  1. LWC611

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    I believe I have said this in another thread, but I think it is appropriate to repeat here. The Jets seem to stuggle when they have the national spotlight during the regular season or stated differently, when they are the national game. They are the national 4:25 game on CBS this Sunday. I hope they can play a good game and if we have a really big lead, I do not want to see a let down on defense.
     
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    :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
     
  3. deerow84

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    I don't really agree with these kinds of arguments. If we lose this game it will be because of what happens on the field. The ONLY external factor that could influence it at all is that it's an away game for the Jets. Which doesn't mean a defacto loss but can influence the outcome, as the stats clearly show.

    If there is any co-relation between the Jets and struggling in the national games (assuming that's even true) it would be that, typically, they are probably playing a better team in the national game or at least a team that they have a good rivalry with. The national games usually include at least one really good team or two teams with a history of a rivalry which means anything can happen. It's not like they are matching up against the Browns or some crap team when they get the national game. If so you could make the argument it affects them but unless you have stats to show the win-loss record of the Jets vs certain teams (Steelers in this case) in national vs non-national broadcast games I would put no stock in your argument.
     
  4. BrowningNagle

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    You really think so? I completely disagree. I think if the Jets win sunday, we will see a complete 180 and the story will be how the Jets are for real, how Sanchez is the real deal now and how their offense now matches their defense etc. etc. I think they will praise them more than they are worth even. Calling them superbowl contenders and all that. Especially if Sanchez and Tebow both play well and it helps that Pittsburgh is a respected team.

    The Media has been bashing the Jets for awhile now, sure, but it's not because they hate the Jets or anything, the way the media's been lately is all about strong (inflated) convictions...This is a league-wide phenomenon. Strong headlines and convictions sell whether they are based in reality or not.

    Robert Griffin III had a very good first game - the story isn't, what a good first game for the rookie. Its RG3 is an absolute uber BEAST, hall of fame here he comes!!! wait until he has a bad game they will flop faster than a trout out of water!

    When Mark Sanchez plays poorly, its not, Mark Sanchez had a tough day vs. that defense, its MARK SANCHEZ IS THE WORST STARTING QB IN THE NFL. He's still shaking that shit off from last year..Buffalo isn't enough to pull a 180.

    But I think if the Jets win vs. Pitts and if Sanchez plays well the story will be about how GREAT he is and how the Jets are so great and changed this year... maybe even ridiculous assertions that Tebow fixed the locker room, motivated Sanchez and they will win the superbowl!!! that's the name of the game now, its not about a particular hate for the Jets or any team, its about bold proclamations and $$$$ (the Jets are just easier to pour it on when they are down because of their own proclamations)
     
  5. RuJFan

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    It's a plus only when both Sanchez and Tebow are behind O-line. Then there are several possibilities that defense has to account for: Mark to pass, hand off to TT, straight run, straight pass. When Mark is at WR, defense doesn't need to worry about passing -- Sanchez is away and Tebow is not a pass threat. Placing Sanchez at WR effectively cuts defense's work in half. All they need to worry about is run by either Tebow or RB.
     
  6. RuJFan

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    I don't think so. There might be some commentators who will do it, sure, but the majority will continue signing the same or similar tune they do now. It's too big of a viewer/reader drawing to just abandon after 2 games.

    Now THIS I can see happening
     
  7. VanderbiltJets

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    I'm not sure, it could go either way in my opinion. Will probably be split. There are always going to be the hard core who rip on the Jets no matter what and always predict them losing, never give them credit for anything, etc. But I'd say right now it's 9.8/10 media people who are negative towards the Jets, mostly because they are easy targets and media people have no backbone and usually just go with the majority.

    If the Jets starting winning games though the Jets won't be as easy a target and could shift. It might still be 6/10 being negative (which by definition is a majority which is what you said) but still will be an improvement.
     
  9. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So you don't think it's an advantage that the opposing defensive coordinator can't put in a run heavy defense against a potential wildcat offensive personnel?
     
  10. Montana

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    @gerrydulac: Don't be surprised if James Harrison AND Troy Polamalu don't play against the Jets. Each sat out again today.
     
  11. GQMartin

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    Excellently poinant post.

    No homer, the Jets win this game, with - or without Revis.
     
  12. Bill Belidouche

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    Great post, causation /= correlation. Generally-speaking, the opponents the Jets have faced on TV have been of the Baltimore/New England/Miami variety. All of whom are either very strong teams or significant rivals who always seem to play us hard.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    a.k.a. Pittsburgh
     
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    Agree completely. Having Sanchez out wide as a receiver is nothing but a minor distraction. But if you noticed, having TT as a TE or wide receiver particularly in the middle will pay big dividends I saw 2 occasions were if thrown to, TT could have gotten appreciable yardage. Watch out for that play this week
     
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    Not sure if srs
     
  16. RuJFan

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    Maybe I'm not explaining it right... I'm not arguing against wildcat or putting Tebow in. I'm arguing against lining Sanchez at WR. The way I see it, 3 settings might make life for D difficult: Mark @ QB, Tebow @ QB (i.e. wildcat) or both Mark & Tebow behind O-line, like they did against Bills. Sanchez at WR will make defense's job easier.

    When Sanchez is not under center, DC can and should put a run heavy defense. The logic behind it is that TT likely = wildcat. Hence heavy run defense. Now let's say it's one of the trick plays designed for TT to throw. In that case why put Sanchez at WR? Aren't you weakening your on-field wide reciever personnel by using a QB instead of an actual WR (or a TE)? If you wanna run wildcat -- sub Sanchez for additional WR, TE or RB.
     
  17. RuJFan

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    I you look up my original comment in this thread, this is what I saw too. Bills were definately confused when both Mark and Tim were in the back field.
    I believe Steelers D injury situation are getting better, and rapidly. So I think there will be heavy dose of both QBs under center this Sunday.
     
  18. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The point is that the opposing DC doesn't know which one is lining up to take the snap when both are in the huddle so he has no way of putting in a run heavy personnel package based on which one takes the snap.

    If they do send in the run heavy personnel then sanchez should always take the snap and pass it. If they don't, tebow can take the snap and run against a lesser front.
     
  19. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know what Keller's deal is? The guy shouldn't have played against the Bills if he's barely out there and still hasn't practiced this week.
     
  20. RuJFan

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    Yep, agree 100%
     

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