By "brand" I'm not talking about merchandise. From the context of my post, it should have been fairly obvious that I was referring to him being a QB who can also run as his "brand".
Thanks for the lecture on valor. You don't know me, but obviously you can make a judgement on my character from my observations on Mr. Tebow. I've served my country in the military for 12 years and counting. Don't talk to me about valor. Anyways, the point is, I think some people are overstating his contribution yesterday. I don't think his punt protecting or wildcat really did much. I think he needs to focus on refining his QB skills in the unfortunate case that Sanchez goes down and he needs to step in. My point is they have other guys to do what he is doing minus the wildcat stuff. I think it's a distraction and sideshow to what he should be doing. If that is such a ridiculous view, then I guess I am a nit-wit, as you so eloquently stated.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. I applaud Tebow's willingness to pitch in, I just don't think it was all that useful or helpful. I think he should focus on QBing rather than special teams. Get that stuff down, then worry about special teams. I think people SHOULD agree with me on that point considering all the criticism he receives from those you are now in cahoots with.
You really think what I said is crazy? Really? If any real QB other than Tebow was doing this stuff, THAT would be seen as crazy. I think that Tebow is in danger of caricaturing himself into Brad Smith and may never see the field again as a QB1 if the perception of him becomes he is a gimmick/gadget player. As much work as he has put into his dream, I think it would be a shame to have it be derailed by becoming a side show. I did say that if he is comfortable with that, cool... but he should be aware of the potential consequences. BTW, I don't agree with everything you say either, brother. Remember, all your comments get attributed to all of us Tebow fans too. I still show you respect, though.
You are right. I wont use the word crazy or idiotic again when describing anything you post, because you are not crazy and your not idiotic and I really only meant it in reference to the comment but see now how it could be taken completely wrong. My bad you have my apology /bow. lets get passed this. I am not in cahoots with anybody. I think Tebow is a phenomenal football player. I am a huge fan . That being said he has a lot more to worry about than special teams if he wants to continue being an NFL QB. I think the constant tinkering with his motion has actually set him back. I would vote for him to stop tinkering with his motion and play naturally way more than worrying about special teams.
Bingo! QB you are right on. The longer Tebow accepts his role as something other than QB the further his dream (and his fans dream) get away from him (them). This is Tebow's third year... THIRD YEAR in the league and he isn't any closer to being a full time QB than he was the day he was drafted. Think about this... he DIDNT TAKE THE QB in denver last year, he was given it to him by poor play. If Denver had gone 3-2 or even 2-3 I doubt you see him getting the start and that was with a horrid QB. Sanchez is average to slightly-above average. How do you honestly see him TAKING sanchez' job? Unless Sanchez get injured or is so bad they have nothing to lose Tebow will be going into his 4th year as a back-up QB. I'm sorry but if he doesn't put his foot down and work on being a QB I see him slowly slipping into the "gimmick" role for the next few years.
I have always agreed with you on that position. The tinkering did more harm than good. They should focus on him just improving his understanding of the game and not his throwing motion. Agree to bury the hatchet. Just didn't know where you were coming from today, but no worries. :beer:
Yeah, my point exactly. I'm glad someone understands what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't be a team player. I applaud him for that. I do however strongly believe that the special teams punt protecting does nothing significant for the Jets. They may try a fake two times this season. You can't really do it that often and expect it to work. If they try it a lot and if fails, he takes the bullet for it. Best case scenario he gets 1 or 2 first downs this year from it. I do not think it is worth it branding him as a special teams player. I have no issue with him going in and running the wildcat, but I do not think he should ever be asked to line up as a WR. First, they aren't going to throw it to him. Second, if they do by chance throw it to him, he better damn well catch it, or then they are going to say he shouldn't even be a TE! And then what? It's just not worth it to me for so little gain. My advice to Tebow if I was his manager would be... shut your mouth... study the playbook... master your craft (QB)... be a good teammate... be ready to be QB1 if you get called in. This other stuff is just outside of the scope of QBing. I know he thinks the Jets are helping him, but they are really hurting him with this crap. I think that Sparano making him takes snaps from under center in the pre-season was a good gesture. It forced him to work on the area he needs most. Not knocking the Jets organization here. They gave the guy a chance when only a handful of teams were willing, but this special teams/WR stuff is unnecessary and of little utility to them. Get real special teams/WRs in there on those plays, not Tebow.
It's clearly set him back. But I think it was necessary. I think he's got to rework everything, and just live with all the jackals laughing as he tries to retrain his whole rhythm. I don't think he could get there without biting the bullet. And this is the perfect gig for him to do that. Only downside is Jets fans howling and trolling, but in reality he needed that preseason work and he needs more of it.
You have to wonder if the fact that he hasn't been given a bigger role means Sporano / Rex have decided his fate. I found the way they played him to be odd on Sunday. I couldnt find a real reason to put him in the situations that they put him in? Goal line makes sense, 3rd-1/2 yards or 4th-1/2 yards makes perfect sense. but the situations thye had him in didn't play to his strengths???? I dont have an issue with them playing him but why put him in situations that aren't perfect for him?
Yeah it all seemed a bit weird and uncomfortable to watch. Like when a practical joke goes too far and everyone starts looking around for someone else to stop it. For the first time, I felt a little embarrassed for Tebow. I always wanted to see him play, but not like that. He just seemed like the Jet's bitch boy. Glad for the Jets' win and congrats to Sanchez for playing well, but I did not like what I saw for Tebow at all. They didn't even ask him to throw. Let him take a shot. Otherwise, give him a clipboard, a headset, and a folding chair. I have no issues with that.
because they werent at all set up to really be big plays. If you know Tebow is running then the defense can stop him, his biggest runs aren't designed they happen when people are looking for a pass and he has some open field in front of him. Tebow is a good runner for a QB not a RB/WR/TE.
I think they were very smart the way they used him yesterday. They gave other teams a lot to worry about without showing much of anything. I'm sure there's much of the playbook that went unused yesterday.
Depends on the play call and who is with him. Tebow's biggest runs have been from the Read Option which is a finesse game of sorts. When he takes a direct snap and runs, that's a short yardage, "Power O" play.
true, I should have said when there is a small threat that he may pass, where he freezes the LB's, CB and Safeties for just a second, which will allow him to exploit a gap. The plays they ran Sunday never appeared to have even a hint of passing threat. I think it speaks to how uncomfortable they are with him passing right now. in the 1st quarter even when things were looking good, they couldnt risk the chance of him throwing a pick so they ran it instead.
that's a bold call. Tebow against steelers might be dangerous. They are gunning for him after ending their season last year. Who knows.
