Joe Namath: Jets seem more interested in headlines than winning

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by jetzIII, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Messages:
    6,100
    Likes Received:
    2,222
    A) How do we know all of those guys never said anything critical about their former team? We're not fans of those teams and we don't exactly follow the coverage of those teams. And you're definitely wrong on one of them, Terry Bradshaw has been VERY critical of Ben Roethlisberger.

    B) On a certain level, you'd rather have former players care about the team than not give two shits after they retire.

    I'm not saying Joe's entirely right, like I said he's done it WAY too much (and it's funny how Namath kills the Jets for wanting attention, since that's basically what HE does) but it's not the one-sided view you have either.
     
    #101 NYJFan10, Aug 30, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2012
  2. FriendlyGiantsFan

    FriendlyGiantsFan New Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think it's candyland logic to state that Woody Johnson cares more about the bottom line than the wins and loss columns. I'm not saying he wants the team to fail, but I think he's completely happy with an average team creating the most buzz in the league. Several things the Jets have done under Woody and several things Woody has said lend credence to that line of thinking.

    I get that you disagree with it, but you can't just dismiss it as silly because it doesn't fit your opinion.
     
  3. FriendlyGiantsFan

    FriendlyGiantsFan New Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,886
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wow, Namath pretty much hit the nail directly on the head in that interview. The Jets had some serious problems with attitude and Namath (whom I really believe really does care about the team) voiced his concerns about that.

    I believe Namath truly does want to see the Jets succeed and, being the outspoken individual he has ALWAYS been, he has no problems calling out if he thinks they are making mistakes in how they go about trying to be a successful franchise.
     
  4. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    14,025
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    You do realize the Redskins, and 49ers have two of the top 5 longest sell out streaks in the NFL, right? Of course you don't. The last 10 years, they have been so successful, right? That is not always what sells tickets in the first place. As you would say, "Don't let the facts get in the way, right?"

    How was Namath a hypocrite? He placed showmanship and winning on the same level. Explain to me, as a SB winning QB, who gutted it out and played as a borderline gimp with his knees, yet laid it all on the line every sunday, placed showmanship over winning. If you read any of his autobiographies (which I'm sure you didn't because in your never ending wisdom and sensitivity, you just resort to making alcoholic jokes). He talks of a conversation he had with Sonny Werblin (Jets owner when Namath was drafted) and Werblin's wife. Namath was pissed over media coverage of the Jets. Werblin's wife told him, "Joseph, it's show business." Namath realized that being marketable and winning were on an equal plain. Namath then played the showbiz card better than anyone at the time AND STILL WON. He made himself marketable, made ton of money and still won a world championship. Another famous interview was in the locker room after they won the SB. A reporter famously asked, "Joe...it took you 4 years to win. Did you think it would happen so quick?" Namath snapped back, "FOUR YEARS?? That's a long time. I want to win EVERY year!" Why? Because he was passionate about winning, not just being in the media.

    Difference with Woody, a billionaire businessman, is he doesn't have the passion Namath does. Football is far from his only business. If the Jets aren't winning, he'll take the media attention. I'm not saying he's okay with 3-13, but he'll take media over winning if that's the situation that presents itself. He just doesn't want both losing and nobody caring.

    His latest comment, "You can never have too much Tim Tebow" is embarrassing. How does that help Mark Sanchez (you know....the starting QB)? Do you think Sanchez is cool with that? How does that help the team? If that's not proof he's more concerned with media than helping to build a team around Sanchez, than there is nothing that will ever change your mind.

    It's all right though. You can just tell someone to "kindly shut up", or make Namath alcoholic jokes.
     
  5. Barcs

    Barcs Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2011
    Messages:
    5,776
    Likes Received:
    267
    Alright, that was 3 games into the season. I thought we were talking the off season? I do remember that. I still don't agree with him, just because they went 8-8. But this is irony at its finest. People on this board bash players on our current roster, calling them pieces of shit, and plenty of other stuff not worth repeating, yet when I mention something like that, people get up in arms about it. That's the whole joke of this thing. If somebody comes off with an attacking attitude, they shouldn't be upset when people attack back. :lol: at saying it's low class, when it happens in every other thread to players on our team. The nonsense people have said about Holmes this off season has been 10 times worse than anything I've ever said about Joe Namath. He had his day, but he wears clown shoes now. I can't put it any other way.

    Am I not allowed to voice my opinion in a thread? I think Namath is way off base here. You don't like my opinion, that's tough cookies. I have just as much right to explain how utterly absurd that opinion is as he has to say it. People shouldn't be mad at me. Everyone's taking it personally that I dissed Namath. Get over it. It's nothing compared to what everyone else does to people on the current roster. Yes, it's ironic. Yes it's hypocritical.
     
    #105 Barcs, Aug 31, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2012
  6. VanderbiltJets

    VanderbiltJets Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    3,091
    Likes Received:
    23
    Jets: Joe Namath seems more interested in headlines than winning
     
  7. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    6,917
    Likes Received:
    2,901
    Hmm Namath is at least right that the Jets do not seem very interested in winning....
     
  8. BIGREX

    BIGREX Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Messages:
    370
    Likes Received:
    12
  9. BIGREX

    BIGREX Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2010
    Messages:
    370
    Likes Received:
    12
    as for JOE being inebriated ,there are a few on this team could do with taking a drink :beer: Joe always called it how he seen it ,cant believe he said we might win 9/10 games :breakdance:
     
  10. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    4,575
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sirius NFL ran the entire Namath interview this morning - Joe was excellent and very supportive of Sanchez and he specifically didn't knock Rex, Sparano or Tebow - its amazing how distorted this stuff actually gets from the questions that he was actually asked and the very measured and thoughtful responses that he actually gave.

    the lunatic fringe on here such as Barcs that want to attack Joe need to dial it down about 10 clicks at least. Its obvious that you didn't even hear the entire interview, because if you had heard it you would have realized that Namath was excellent and fair in his responses and very knowledgable as to not just the jets - but Qbs throughout the NFL and the wildcat offense. You are free to have an opinion and are free to live under the delusion that you know more about football then a HOF QB does, but at least listen to the actual entire interview before you decide to make stuff up in order to rip a guy.
     
    #110 AbdulSalam, Sep 2, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2012
  11. egelband

    egelband Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2008
    Messages:
    1,441
    Likes Received:
    256
    i like namath. like it or not, he's mr jet. he cares about the jets and doesn't care about criticism. he's flawed but he's ok in my book.

    it is funny that a guy who was never one to shy away from the camera might goof on the jets trying to grab headlines. but, whatever. he's cool.
     
  12. soh_vet

    soh_vet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    1,123
    Likes Received:
    206
    How can anyone be sensitive to what Joe says and be a Jet fan? You picked the wrong team to be sensitive about.

    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
     
  13. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    9,045
    Likes Received:
    685
    yea, what he said....:beer:
     
  14. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2012
    Messages:
    2,616
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    A lot of bad blood towards Joe Namath.

    He continuously gets asked tough questions because he answers honestly. His replies are things we ALL know to be true.

    But we all assume he should sugar coat everything, keep the peace. Sorry. He tells the truth WHEN ASKED...that's why the media keeps asking him. They love the headlines.

    Can't say I disagree with any of his opinions.
     
  15. CaneJet

    CaneJet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2002
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    26
    Good to see Joe Namath got his balls back after he divorced that lunatic ex-wife of his and sobered up. He might be a bit annoying and he might not always be right but he'll always be Joe Namath. He can say whatever the hell he wants.
     
  16. Jon_Snow

    Jon_Snow New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    463
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's what I think too. Most of the time Namath including now is on the money with his comments. However, most ex stars know enough to not get involved or volunteer to answer such questions. What good could come of it? Ironically the Jets and Namath have one thing in common they crave attention. Joe just can't say no to the media.
     
  17. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    Joe Namath has been far more consistently right than those who post negative and personal comments about him here have been.

    If anything I think he's too optimistic about the coming season.
     

Share This Page