It's unbelievable the types of threads that happen in the Tebowmania forum. Thankfully, Tapatalk has that 'last posted' tab so I accidentally get a hoot out of one every once in a while.
You'd need three QBs that could run the Spread Option, BUT, that doesn't mean that you had to have 3 QBs that could actually run the ball. Chris Leak ran the Spread Option pretty well at Florida without being able to run between the tackles. It would remove a small portion of your playbook, but it could still be successful.
Did you care to weigh in on the subject ? Or was your pithy comment the extent of your contribution ?
This outlook is too simplistic. In order for a team to run a base offense as diametrically opposite to the pocket offenses so common in the NFL, the scouting department would have to change their entire program in order to stock the offense with the absolute top talent available to specifically run the spread, the coaching staff on the offensive side of the ball would have to either abandon everything that has made them successful at the pro level, or simply be replaced with NFL caliber coaches that are obsessed with the spread, and the entire offensive roster would need an overhaul. It's just not worth the gamble when the NFL has not only made billions of dollars from the pocket offenses, but has also changed the rules to favor them. You people are fucking delusional.
Sweetheart, just out of curiousity, what type of offenses do you think they run up in Green Bay and down in New Orleans ?
Oh I agree if you notice I did say the team would have to buy into totally. I guess I should of expanded on that part of my statement, but I'm not much good at typing.
They use a WCO variant with a few influences in the spread, same with New England. The spread you're taking about does not exist in the NFL as a base offense.
I'd say that the closest thing to it is Carolina presently, but most similar to it was the Falcons during the Vick days. I'm sure there are older/better examples from the past, but I just don't know of them off hand.
How about not making the statement at all and just discussing football. I'm sure you are a tough guy and can kick everyone's ass in person. But we're on the internet.
Brady and Brees are big play quarterbacks. Dink and dunking doesnt get you 5000+ yards without big plays. Johnson was considered a "Checkdown Charlie" by all the other quarterbacks, the one year they had a skills competition during the Pro Bowl. He made all high percentage short passes which qualifies as "dink and dunk". Lets not stray from the topic. Tebow sucks and being black has nothing to do with the ability coach. Lastly Bill Walsh won 3 superbowls while implementing the WCO. The WCO is totally different than having a dual threat in every essence. Lets consider the fact that a successful dual threat qb needs to make reads on the pass protection, line protection, and throw an accurate pass. When the pocket gets flushed they can run for big gains, or have designed runs that can average high YPR. Tebow cannot make pass protection reads, line protection reads, or throw an accurate pass. He played well in the T-Bone offense which is something that high school, college teams, and 1920s NFL teams run. Tebow will never be a successful quarterback in the NFL. Last year was a complete fluke. The Steelers were mangled on defense. Troy P and James Harrison were not 100%. The Steelers stacked the box and dared Tebow to throw it. You gotta give Tebow credit for winning that game, but its no fluke that he shit the bed against the worst defense in the league the very next game.
heh, Urban Meyer's Spread Option is based off the same philosophy as the WCO, same with most Spread offenses. Meyers just added a viable run component from the Shotgun. When you look at New Orleans, GB, and at times, New England, they are indeed running spread offenses.
You're trying to tell me that the offense that Urban Meyer runs is similar to the ones that are run in New Orleans, Green Bay and New England? I have to hear more about the technical similarities. Maybe you can win me over. How often does he utilize zone blocking, pray tell? (and I'm not being pissy for a change)
Not so sure I agree with you. Seems that you are rationalizing away Tebow's success. I think that the Spread Option, run with a Cam/Tebow/Vick style QB can win in the NFL. Defenses have not been able to stop these guys from compiling stats. I think the beauty of a true dual threat QB is that they may have a big passing game or a big rushing game from week-to-week. I think if you "forced" a guy like Tebow on a great coach like Belichick and said, "You must use him as your starting QB", he would still have success and Tebow would look good running the offense. I don't buy the argument that NFL defenders are too fast or complex. Fluke or not, the #1 pass defense had its highest yards allowed all season by the guy everyone says is the worst passer in the league. I think that shatters that conception of lightning fast NFL defenders negating a dual threat QB. Dual threat QBs are usually some of the best athletes on the field.
