Bottom 3rd OL in the league? Im not sure exactly how you picked 28 teams with better OL than the Jets. We had TJ in 09. His play has declined the moment he was cut. We had LT in 2010. His play was already on a decline. We had Shonn Greene in 2011. We continue to bash him, yet he had a thousand yard season with no deep passing game. He averaged 4.2 YPC and that too without any homerun carries. His longest was 36 so 4.2 YPC is really good considering the situation. He got better in the passing game as season went by. Not to forget, his fumbling issue also went away. He had one fumble in almost 300 touches, and that too was recovered (can't remember which one though). And now he is in his contract year. Besides the usual progress of a young RB, he should now play with even more motivation to cash in that one big paycheck he'll ever get in the league. Im not concerned about the RB situation at all. Not yet at least. Agree with both statements. Safeties are temporary fix, but who is to say we can not resign Landry next off season? Also, where as LBs are getting old, we do have Maybin and just drafted Davis. The CS really likes Davis and he should be ready by next year to step in to one of the LBs shoes. Shouldn't be that tough of a job since Jets LBs are nothing to write home about. Its not the LBs or the DL or the DBs that make this a great D. Its the scheme. Maybe you ought to think about what you just wrote. Jets had Brunell as Sanchez's backup last year. How is the situation worse from last year when we replaced Brunell with Tebow? Yeah, Tebow isn't the best passer, but he didn't join the Jets to be the starter. Would you be happy with a 42 year old Mark Brunell taking snaps while Sanchez is hurt, or would you prefer Tebow behind center? I know who I would pick. I'd pick the QB that picked apart the Steelers team in the playoffs last year. I think Jets have had some bad contracts in recent years and yes, thats on Tanny. Sanchez is overpaid, but that's mainly due to the fact he's on a pre rookie wage scale contract. Cromartie is a little overpaid IMO, probably by about a mil a year. Holmes is overpaid by about $3mil a year. He's not worth $9mil a year for 800 yards. Jets could have easily saved about $6-8 mil on those contracts, but they were either FA contracts (inflated for being FA), or just on a rookie deal without the rookie wage scale. The blame will naturally go on Tanny. Jets should have drafted a WR early in the draft few years ago, but they ignored it. Same with the safety spot. Should not have used fourth rounders on RBs the last few years. Backup RBs come dime a dozen. Jets need to drop back in the draft next year and pickup a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process. They need to address their OL first in the draft, then safety, OLB, and another OL with the first 4 picks hopefully with in the first 3 rounds. Thats my preference, and it was pretty much the same preference I had this year too, not that Im not satisfied with the draft so far. Instead of a DE (which was not a huge need), we should have went with an OLB to replace cactus, and picked up OL earlier in the draft.
you've all heard of Superman and Batman? well i now present to you the newest superhero REX RYAN: TEFLON MAN!
I do not understand how Rex can be faulted for not having a clear vision where to go. It might be the wrong vision or old fashion or not cerebral enough but it is clear. Strong defence, ground n pound, minimizing mistakes on the offence, winning the field position game. Execution of it is iffy and non-consistent , that i give you.
Rex Ryan: Head Coach with a 28-20 regular season record after 3 years and 4-2 playoffs record all the road. Top 5 defense in the last 3 years, no defense under him has been outside the top 10 in his coaching career I believe. (might even be higher). His worst season as a head coach was 8-8, one game out of the playoffs (one or two plays). We all know Rex needs to grow as a coach, but between him and Tanny, who do you want to blame more what's happened/happening, it makes more sense to blame the guy handing out the money and signing the players. We don't have much above average talent at the skill positions besides CB. Our S are patched together, WR inexperienced (barring Tone), our QB is growing or declining, and only one RB has seen meaningful game time as a full time RB. So when someone says "A lot of it is Rex." I take that to be more than Tanny which I disagree with. When someone says, "He is clueless for half the game." with no examples, I disagree. What on the last 3 years is enough say Rex isn't the man? If we cycle coaches every 3-5 years, nobody is ever going to be the man except someone who luckily catches lightning in the bottle, wins the SB, then stays for 10+ years with a terrible team because they got lucky once. The vision is with a strong defense your offense doesn't have to be elite. Look at the Giants past two Super Bowl wins. Offense made big plays late, defense made plays all game. Look at the Steelers first super bowl win this millenium. Look at the Patriots first Super Bowl. Look at the Colts one. Look at the Ravens (obviously) and the Bucs (obvious). The only with an elite QB at the time of the win was the Colts with Peyton, but he didn't play well. His defense did most of the game, like for all the above teams to. The vision is there and it makes sense because we don't what type of QB Sanchez is going to be. We saw that he can make plays and win games in 2010-2011. We also saw he isn't at the point where he can overcome a porous offensive line like very few of the QB's today can do. Sanchez has shown he is not an Elite QB so it's time to build things around him. Rex can build the defense with whatever you give him, but Tanny has to give Sanchez offensive weapons too. Like I said earlier, most QBs when they won their first SB were not elite at the time or did not play Elite. They made one or two big plays, but most didn't go 21-30 for 275 and 3 TDs marching up and down the field at will
Please dear god keep Rex. The last thing I want to happen this or next season is to see yet another Jets head coach come in, stink it up for two years then get dumped. Yes, the offense looks like shit, yes they blew an 8-5 record last year but c'mon, give the guy more than three years and incredible turnover in the WR corps. Hopefully Hill turns into something and Holmes has a quiet but effective non-douchebaggy (wordvention) year. Shitty offense or not I can't friggin' wait for September.
He had a bad season, the guy deserves this year to prove if he can learn from his mistakes unless we are judging the coach, GM, owner and players on game 1 & 2 of pre-season.
If 8-8 is a bad season, then Rex has seriously raised the bar for this franchise, because our history is littered with 3-11 and 4-12
I just hope Rex gets a dependable punter in here to challenge Conley. Our Defense will be defending a short field if we do not get a decent punter in here. Field position is key for us winning.
Same Old Jet fans continue to amaze me.8-8 is now considered a bad season and they want to fire the coach who made them forget what a bad season really looks like.
1) I have not heard anyone say to fire Rex 2) This same old jet fan notion is so fkng stupid. Lets stop acting like we won 2 SB's instead of going to 2 AFCC games, HUGE FKNG difference. When we win a SB, we can talk about soj fans, until then, it's moronic bravado that stems from the loud mouth coach who has done nothing here more than any other failed coach. 3) Anyone who does not question Rex as a HC is blind. Good HC's don't lose the locker room, and have no clue that it was lost. 4) i have never once heard of a coach lose a locker room, and then regain it. If Rex can do it, I will support him staying, but if he cannot regain the locker room and have a successful year, he should be done as a HC. 5) Rex has his hands all over this roster, this is not Tanny in isolation. Most of the high draft picks since Rex got here have been defense, most of the free agents brought in have been on defense. The draft picks and FA's were Rex guys. This is his team more than it is Tanny's team. Unfortunatley, the best players on the roster were brought in BEFORE Rex got here, and there is no disputing that.
Do you consider teams that have won the Super Bowl recently (last 10 years lets say) to be failures since they only won once or twice?
Strong aggressive defensive team, always knocking at the playoff door, one consistent QB away from becoming a yearly playoff contender.
In the years they did not win the SB there season was as unsuccessful as ours have been for 44 years (including this season) Winning a SB say 10 years back makes them however far more successful then the NYJs are :sad:
What aggression on defense? Rex changed everything around over the last two seasons to make the Jets into a rope-a-dope pass defense that fools QB's into thinking some of their receivers are covered by phantoms. I just don't see a team identity that is worth much when I look at the Jets right now.
I completely agree with this. I think Rex came in as Mr. Tough guy, he started day one press conference: "The Jets are coming and we are going to be more than other teams can handle" or something like that. He tried to be a tough guy, until year 2 when the Patriots embarassed them on national TV. since then, he has been still talking, although finally toning it down a bit, but they have definitely changed the defensive style. They are blitzing far less, becasue they are not fooling anyone with their blitzes anymore, and they have no real pass rush threat. Now, they have really become a team without an identity. Rex claims ground and pound, but they don't have a very good running game. They have a very good secondary, but still have no pass rush, and old slow LB'ers. Rex is a good enough defensive coach to keep the defense solid. I personally think Rex is shot as a HC. I think his bravado is worn off, nobody is affraid of the defense, and the offense flat out sucks becuase they have ignored it since Rex got here. They are destined for mediocrity AT BEST, for the next few years.
I believe the jury's still out on the Rex Ryan era. I have to admit, after last seasons melt down in the locker room and poor play down the stretch, I wanted the fat bastard gone, but really when I sit back and think who I'd rather have here nobody else comes to mind. This is a HUGH year for Rex/Tanny. I think if we underperform, missing the playoffs, that could mean some big changes are on the horizon. Schotty was the scapegoat last year, even though we all wanted him gone, but missing the playoffs again could mean this team looks a lot different next season.
The jury has to be out on Rex, it has to be. Year 1 was so fkng lucky. Rex said himself they were done after the pathetic Atlanta loss. Then they stepped in complete shit. They took advantage of it, and played a good game against the Chargers, but they got so lucky that the Colts pulled there starters. That would have been a 7-9 or 8-8 year. Year 2 had again a lot of luck. They won so many games they had no business winning, fine, they won so great. Rex had a truly great moment in NE in the playoffs, that was a game you cannot take away from him. But he got lucky against the Colts in many ways. His team completely shit the bed against the Steelers. Last year was a debacle, I don't care how you slice it, it was a debacle. I will say it again, once a coach loses a locker room, it is nearly impossible to get back.
