The problem is that Tony Sparano had Todd Haley coordinating the passing game for him in Dallas. He had Bill Parcells looking over his shoulder on the play calls and taking the head phones from him on more than one occasion when he didn't like the way things were going. Tony Sparano has never had a full offensive coordinator job in the NFL. He's a rookie in that regard. Even if he has the talent to do this, and he may well, he's going to bleed a bit this year as he figures it all out. I don't think he has the talent on the field to make it work though. There's a big difference between having Romo-Jones-Barber-TO and Witten and having Sanchez-Greene-McWho-Holmes and Keller. That's just what it is. Even if the Jets line wasn't looking like a total clusterfuck at this point the skill players are nowhere near as good as what Parcells put together in Dallas. Just like Parcells threw together a great group with the Jets on short notice. The current Jets FO has never put together a strong collection of skill players after the Parcells contributions aged out. The closest they've come was in 2008 and 2010 and not surprisingly those two years are the Jets high water mark on offense in the decade although not top 10 either year.
For me, Sparano never even made it to the preseason. The minute they announced it I gave up on him. Sorry, I just don't see it. I think Rex' vision for the O is a bit simplistic. Those days of ground and pound are gone. In the past 10 years how many teams that have won the SB have employed such a scheme? I would venture to say at least 9 of the 10 had very good passing games. You can't have a great running game with Wayne Hunter at RT, a passing game that resembles blooper out takes from the Chad Pennington days, and Shonne Green. It's just not gonna happen.
I think the Jets group could actually be quite good given the chance. The Jets seriously need to address that RT spot so they have any chance whatsoever. Sanchez could be mentally far enough along at this point that we begin to regularly see the Sanchez we saw in the playoffs. That Sanchez wasn't getting repeatedly crushed. Greene is also extremely underrated. He will surprise a lot of people given the chance. Right now the Jets are their own worst enemy. There is only one team in the NFL that can stop the Jets and its the New York Jets.
and yet respected offensive guru Sean Payton wanted to take Tony as his OC in NO when he left Dallas. The Parcells contributions? you mean the guys BP inherited?
Agreed. 100%. It's a circus. So Sanchez had his best days with Cotchery and Edwards. Here's an idea, lets get rid of them both and get Holmes who acts like he's scored on someone's mother everytime he catches the ball. Then acts like a bag of dicks when he doesn't get the ball. Rex has grown tiresome for me.
San Diego is ahead of us because they've won a seasons worth of games more than us. They've actually earned trips to the playoffs and then screwed up the opportunities, as opposed to lucking into the playoffs on several occasions and then over achieving. The Chargers are 96-64 since 2002. The Jets are 80-80. If you think my judging them to be better than the Jets over the last decade based on their 60% winning percentage vs the Jets 50% represents some kind of bias, well I feel for you. I don't count 50% as good even if it's the Jets 50%.
Yeah because Payton knew whenever things got sketchy he could add his guru-ish input. Sorry but Rex can't provide such input since he's offensively inept.
Greene is appropriately rated. He really hasn't done squat. And the passing game isn't doing him any favors.
No, I meant Kevin Mawae and Curtis Martin and Randy Thomas and Jason Fabini and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington and Kerry Jenkins and Anthony Becht. You know the guys who lead the Jets in passing and rushing for the better part of a decade and the core of a great offensive line? The Jets collapsed into a pitiful heap on offense when those guys aged out.
Didn't Parcells draft Ellis, Pennington and Abraham in his first draft and then sign Testaverde immediately after? Who are you talking about? Chrebet? I'm sure there were others too.
why are you wasting time talking ancient history? Its 2012 and we are weeks away from starting a new season !!!! Get PSYCHED !!!
playoffs mean more and we didn't get the advantage of playing in such a weak division. In playoffs: NYJ: 6-6 including beating SD twice in SD SD: 3-5 including 0-2 vs. Jets, 0-3 vs. AFC East and 3 home losses a few more reg season wins in an easier division means nothing to me. We are clearly ahead of SD and neck and neck w/ Baltimore the last 10 years.
He didn't draft Chad and becht- Al Groh did. He also didn't bring in Chrebet, Jumbo, Keyshawn, Brady, O'Dwyer, Coles, Moss, Anderson, Lamont, Kareem, etc... No that was Al Groh, you want to see BP drafts check 1997-1999 when he inherited the #1 overall pick and still failed in that draft.
Tannenbaum is such a dope that the high point for this offense is "average." The Jets desperately needed to upgrade their pass protection, and instead, they completely ignored it. Even when Demetrius Bell sat on the open market for way too long. Even when Eric Winston was let go by the Houston Texans and signed for a very, very reasonable deal. It's truly miserable. The Jets are doing everything they can to ruin Sanchez and/or hinder his development. It's unbelievable. Getting rid of Schotty was only part of it. They've overlooked a position of need for two consecutive off seasons now, and it's going to limit their entire season. -X-
I thought Ellis, Abraham, Pennington and Becht were all first round picks in the same year that Parcells made. I thought he was also the coach who decided to keep Chrebet and sign Testaverde. I guess I could look that up. They were all first round picks in 2000 and I guess Parcells was gone by then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NFL_Draft
Parcells drafted Pennington, Ellis, Abraham and Becht in the first round in 2000, his last year with the Jets, after he stepped down as coach and Belichick went to New England. That's how we had four #1 picks, two were in exchange for Keyshawn, one for Belichick and one was ours. When Parcells arrived in 1997 the key players he inherited were Keyshawn and Chrebet at WR, Kyle Brady at TE, Adrian Murrell RB, Neil O'Donnell and Glenn Foley at QB; on D we had Hugh Douglas and Aaron Glenn as our best players. His first year he drafted James Farrior after trading out of the #1 overall pick. His second year he signed Vinny to be Foley's backup, brought Curtis Martin from New England and Kevin Mawae from Seattle.
.500 is .500. You know who had a good decade? A top decade? the Patriots had a top decade. You know who had an absolutely average decade? Winning half the time? Making the playoffs half the time? Never making it to a Super Bowl? The Jets had an absolutely average decade. You know who will be up there in neon lights in the NFL history films thirty years from now? The Patriots will be up there. People will still talk about Tom Brady and Bill Belichik, just like they talk about Joe Montana and Bill Walsh. You know who nobody is going to remember except a few diehard Jets fans who buy the Jets 00's stream? The Jets, that's who nobody is going to remember. People don't give a shit about average teams over time. Nobody but the diehard fans care. That's why I am pissed off by the Jets. When I'm 75 and sitting in a bar somewhere talking football and I start talking about these Jets the guy sitting next to me is going to get this glazed over look after about a minute and I'm going to realize I watched and rooted for mediocrity over and over again while the faces changed but the song remained the same. It happens now when I talk about Klecko who was a great player, a really great player, but he's buried in the sands of didn't draft Marino or Jim Kelly for all time.
