Fear of being blown out in games in 2012

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  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Great question.

    Even considering our D is wayyy better than our O, I htink I'd rather be down 2.

    Brady neding a FG is not a scenario too many people would sign up for.

    Aside from Brady and a couple other QBs, I'd take teh lead but not in this one
     
  2. Jim-Jet

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    While it can be embarrassing to get blown out in a game - I don't see much difference in losing by 1 or losing by 50.

    That said, it would have been nice to have more options on the OL. I am hoping Hill will develop quickly and give Holmes some relief on coverage. The offense may struggle early with a new system but I am hoping we can work out the kinks in preseason.
     
  3. sec314

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    Its really sad, people must be listneing to talk radio where the Jets are the TMZ of football. Man, one pre-season game and our line stinks, we won't pass or run and its time for Tebow. Can't anyone in the media be intelligent because the fan bases can't anymore
     
  4. milo

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    Wish this were accurate but truth is our run D was horrendous on several occasions where it really counted.

    Brady didn't even really rape us in the second game on those long drives, it was Green-Ellis.

    McFadden ran through us like we weren't even there, and we got Tebow'd.

    We had, by my count, 5 full length drives that cost us games last year where we looked as bad against the run as the opening drive of the 2010 AFC Championship game.

    I think the D-line improvements will help a lot with that this year, but let's not kid ourselves - as bad as the O was last year the D was just as culpable at times.
     
  5. championjets69

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    As I have been saying for months now 6-10 or lower will be our record at the end of this season :sad:
     
  6. milo

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    fyp

    /filler
     
  7. Milliner is your Mommy

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    Green Ellis ran on us because we were dropping so many people back in coverage. It was either let Brady beat you or make their run game beat you. At least with the run game they aren't the same threat to gain huge chunks of yards. It was the same plan that we used to beat them in the playoffs.

    McFadden though did destroy us. He is that type of RB that always does though. He has the speed to get around the outside and get passed our linebackers. Thats why we had such a need to get faster at this position for this year.
     
  8. deerow84

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    That was kind of my thoughts as well. I'm sure we'll get blown out at least once but on the flip side we'll probably have a game where our offense wakes up and we blow out the other team. I don't mind close games as long as we're on the winning end more often then not.
     
  9. rico college

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    They were running a vanilla offence with the 3rd and 4th team. Lets wait til the season starts and we actually see the real offense on the field before we start to panic.


    After watching the Rams game and observing that shotty hasn't changed one bit. In no way possible, do we have the same offense as last year. The problem has moved on to a different team.
     
  10. Cman69

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    Funny thing about the preseason is that at some point, you have to stop running vanilla offenses and actually work on things you plan to use during the season. We'll see then just how our offense stacks up. I don't think we're gonna be in the top 10 for points scored though.
     
  11. deerow84

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    We won't be in the top 10 for points allowed either. A blowout isn't all about your own offense it's also about your defense. If we have a strong defense and a suspect offense then there's no more or less chance of a blowout than if we had a suspect defense and a strong offense.
     
  12. championjets69

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    & have I been incorrect? :sad:
     
  13. ajax

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    I thought most of Green-Ellis big runs were in the hurry-up & Brady keeping the Jets defensive subs against run on sidelines. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrong.

    As for McFadden:
    the Jets D against the run up the middle still seemed solid but was pretty bad on the edges. Those speedster backs that were able to get to the edge quickly were too much for Jets D to handle & they'll have the same problems this season unless DeMario is able to play 1st & 2nd downs (which I'm not expecting in his rookie season).

    This is why I'm viewing the DeMario pick as critical in determining what Jets do next year. How many LB need to be replaced on D (which is even more of an issue if the safeties couldn't finish the year healthy & also need to be replaced).
     
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    Yes, many a-time. Then you just fall back on their not winning a SB and put that stupid little sad face at the end of your drivel.
     
  15. Br4d

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    Defining a blowout as a loss by 2 TD's or more the Jets have been blown out 6 times in 3 years with Rex Ryan as head coach, 3 of those coming at the hands of the Pats. The trend is not good though. 3 of the blowouts happened in the last half of 2011.

    I think it is quite possible that the Jets will get blown out 3 or 4 times this season, especially in the early part of the season where they face a few strong defenses plus the Patriots and will still be getting their feet on the ground in the new offensive system.
     
  16. xxedge72x

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    While anything is possible, I hope you had that fear prior to the game. Honestly, how many times can you look back and truly say the preseason was a harbinger of things to come... especially the first preseason game? Are the Jets not also getting their feet on the ground in a new offensive system?

    Fans exist all over the NFL that view everything that happens through a microscope but I feel that is greatly exaggerated when it comes to the Jets.
     
  17. Br4d

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    I've had the fear that the Jets would be bad offensively in 2012 since the last 3 games of the year were followed by the Jet's inaction on the offensive line this last off-season.

    The offense is like a disaster waiting to happen at this point. That's without injuries. If one of the 3 established linemen goes down this is going to be a 2005 quality offense in a hurry,
     
  18. Poeman

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    Essentially, I meant that we won't be competitive in almost every game as we had been in recent play.

    Alot of games are going to look like the Patriots games from last year.
     
  19. xxedge72x

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    While its reasonable to question Tannenbaum's decision making with the offensive line talent that the Jets have acquired up to now, he's never allowed the team to be left high and dry like Bradway did. As bad as Hunter was last year, he's no Adrian Jones. There were a lot of factors that went into the offense being what it was last year... Hunter was one of them, not all of them. Hunter also didn't factor in one whit to this past preseason game.

    We absolutely need better players at LG and RT but everything can't be done overnight. If the Jets had gone in a different direction we might be saying the same thing about a different position.

    I don't know how this is going to turn out... I'm worried about the pass blocking myself. Let it play out. Tannenbaum has always been willing to make a move if the right opportunity or need presents itself and I don't believe it'll be any different with the oline should the situation look dire by the start of the season.
     
  20. Br4d

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    This is not true, he left us high and dry at LG in 2007. He did this as an active choice, getting rid of the Jets established LG so he could play another team's outcast at the position.

    He also left us high and dry at WR in 2009 in Sanchez rookie year when game 6 saw Sanchez throwing to a guy who had been on the team for about a week and Dustin Keller and that was it in terms of continuity.

    It took an injury to Cotchery to do that but the planning at WR that year was horrible and Sanchez took body blows to his development in that game that linger to this day.

    And Hunter is worse than Adrian Jones was in 2005. He has no upside at all. Jones was bad but at least he had the potential to maybe grow into a better player over time. All Hunter will do is get older and less effective and his downside is going to get the QB killed.
     

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