OK but what motivation was there for Slauson to take a pay cut? I'm picturing a hard knocks Kellen Clemens moment ... Obviously Hunter is grossly overpaid.
I think the Jets just played chicken with him and it worked. The obvious threat was that they'd cut him and play Ducasse instead. Whether they made that threat or not is unknown to anybody but Slauson and his agent and the Jets. For all the slack a lot of people cut Tannenbaum he's really only got two major coups in his 6 years as Jet's GM: drafting Darrelle Revis in 2007 and hiring Rex Ryan in 2009 and the conjunction of those two events from 2009 on. I think if you look at his record on balance he's actually been a pretty weak GM over that span given the money the Jets have spent.
For that threat to work Slauson would have to honestly fear that Vlad could replace him which would mean that Vlad is obviously playing better. On the other hand, if Vlad was playing that well - why not just move Slauson out to compete with Hunter and be done with it? Unless they've already determined that neither Slauson nor Vlad is fit for the RT position on a full time basis.
This is a very solid roster w/ top end coaching,medical staff & facilities. I really can't believe I'm hearing this..but than again..I'm on TGG. But I'll just wait to hear more bashing of Vlad before he even plays a snap & more harping on the Pete Kendall situation from 5 years ago.That team was going 6-10 at best with or without Pete Kendall. Interesting that the consensus on this board is to bash the Jets for any prior mishaps on the O-line but no credit is given when the moves work out. And work out they have considering the Jets had top 5 OL units in 2003,2004,2008,2009, & 2010. Those O-lines never seem to come up in conversation however. I wonder why..
Kurt, last year was an accurate reflection of the last decade for the Jets. Some talent on the roster, but not enough to compete with the elite teams. Some injuries that depleted the talent further, but every NFL team deals with injuries. Some inexplicable decisions made by the FO in the off-season that left the team with real issues to deal with during the year. I get that as long as the Jets aren't bad you're satisfied with them. I have different needs. I need the Jets to be excellent to be satisfied with them at this point. Watching an almost good enough team, which is where the Jets fly in their good years these days doesn't balance the mediocrity out. The Jets need to be a good team. Not an ok one. Not an if they get lucky they can make the playoffs one. They need to be good on a year in and year out basis. That's the thing they've never done in the 41 years now that I've been a Jets fan. The current FO isn't going to get that done. They just don't have it, whatever it is. They're also-rans. Not horrible also-rans, but also-rans.
I think it comes down to execution, we may not be the most talented team, but Rex can hide those inefficiencies on defense. It has been the inability to execute the offense on a weekly basis the past 5+ years. If we had an offense that would take advantage of players strengths, we prob would of won the SB in 2009 - 2010. Jets were a good team that year, maybe not elite but a good team, good enough to win it all. I think if things don't pan out with this regime we'll look back at 2010 just like we thought of 1998. Just could not execute. Is it talent? Or was it the offensive philosophy and the way things were called? I don't know about you, but I blame it on Schotty, he should of never been here to begin with.
2010 came down to the Jets not showing up on either side of the ball in the first half in Pittsburgh in the last game. That was a result of poor offensive and defensive preparation for the game and an inexplicable inability of Rex Ryan to motivate the team in what was likely the biggest game of his Jets coaching career.
But the patriots game was our super bowl.... Lmao it is bad how that first half went... We could've stole that game if our Defense didnt allow 150 yards rushing the first half
Schotty called that 3rd and 17 play that should of been a run play. If we run the football punt, play defense again the outcome could of been different. Instead we tried to make something out of nothing and it ended up putting 7 more points on the Steelers board. The whole goal-line "can't hear shit coming out of headset" series was awful too. You just don't do that during a conference game no matter how loud the noise was. Past is in the past, but that's one game I prob never will get over. Along with many other Jet games ... God damnit, I hate thinking about that game. Let's hope for the best this season, hopefully the off-season was enough motivation
Kurt, You've made the bolded statement before and i think it is an unfair characterization of the argument. The argument concerns what VD HAS NOT DONE, not whether all should withhold any comment until he plays more.
thank you I need to take a Maalox now. In Schotty's defense, we needed to start taking chances at that point.
Pittsburgh outplayed us, plain and simple. They were a very good team, with excellent coaching. Whatever Rex did at halftime it worked, however, and we almost pulled it off, but Schotty blew the game with that abysmal goal line sequence (and also Sanchez being a newb and not calling a time out on a critical play when his headset was malfunctioning giving away the bad play call) that would have given us a fighting chance. Then, at the end the defense, failed to get the stop and get us back the ball in time. Shit happens. This year is what matters.
This year is going to make 2010 look like 1968 by comparison. The frustrating thing about being a Jets fan is the team can never put together a string of good years in a row. They revert to the mean almost instantly and frequently miss and go way below it. I'm thinking this is going to be a miss year.
Why does last year matter but the prior 2 do not? Why do your examples always have to be geared to allow for the most probable negative? It's never pinned down to 1 year...ever. The 2010 Jets were a damn talented football team.Sure they lost in the AFC championship game..but would it have been that much of a shock had they won that game? They were just as talented as Pittsburgh & had already beat them once earlier in the season. You want the team to be dominant on both sides of the ball. Of course I want that too. But when's the last time we really saw that? Look at the Giants from last year. They had a worse O-line that we did,injuries all over their defense, & finished the year 9-7. But they were good enough to make the playoffs, their QB got hot as did their pass rush. Look at our own division with the Patriots. Great offense..So-so defense.Would you have been shocked if they won the super bowl? The modern era salary cap has made it near impossible to build a dominant roster 3 deep at every position. Does that mean we should stop striving for it? No. But when one door closes, another opens. Is it really that unrealstic to think the Jets make the playoffs & the D gets really hot?
So if I'm understanding you right...you see no place on a football team for a young linemen to take time to develop before potentially stepping in year 3 or 4 as a plus run blocker?
just going to say, vlad looked very much improved against cincy. looks like he can be an asset in the run game, and he was actually pretty damn effective at pass blocking too. kind of throws a stone into the whole conspiracy pay cut argument i would think. vlad looks better than he ever has out there, he looked pretty good.
But the 2010 team was loaded with talent. Everyone said it. They were 9-2 at one point that year. Sanchez struggled but was clutch in many games. How is the 2010 team that much different than this year's team? No, LT but we have an LT like player in McKnight. No Edwards, but we drafted a similar player and signed one (Hill & Schillens). Tebow is an upgrade over Brad Smith. We are weaker in the punting game and offensive line, but that's pretty much it. This year's team looks much more like the 2010 Jets than 2011 did, that's for sure, but with the bonus of a much deeper / younger Dline and better safety unit. Since then, Sanchez has improved and Greene has improved. It's all about oline this year. It will make or break us.
