Rex says he's the best Defensive coach in football

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  1. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm not a psychiatrist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.

    I do know people that feel that they don't get the credit they deserve, so they feel the need to put it out there.

    You're looking at a guy who has been passed over more than once for big gigs. He was passed over with the Ravens twice. Once for DC, by a guy who was the teams WR coach the year before, and then as the HC by a guy who was never more than a ST coach.

    So yes, I think he has a chip on his shoulder. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing, but I think sometimes he is just a little too open, especially for NY.
     
  2. patfanken

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    Without making judgments of the Jets as a whole, I question some of the areas where you think the Jets have improved

    1. Adding Coples DOES make the Jets DL quicker and younger, but he's the only person you've added and he's an unproven commodity. A bit of stretch but not a much as the next 3.

    2. Upgraded the S unit? This is one that really gets me. You added a 34 year old SS who coverage skills have deteriorated to the point the worst team in the division couldn't use him, and the other guy isn't a coverage guy who has serious injury concerns. How is THAT an upgrade. While the rest of the league scours the waiver wires desperately looking for safeties who have coverage skills, the Jets have cornered the market on run stopping strong safeties? Anyone want to explain this to me?

    3. Explain how adding 2 WRs who haven't caught 30 passes in a season is an upgrade. Hill could be Megatron down the road, but it took even Megatron a few seasons to become who he is. Hill is less experienced and accomplished, and Schillens has yet to play 9 games in any season.

    They COULD both explode out of the box and become instant all pros, but to list them as upgrades NOW, is more than a stretch.

    4. Healthy OL - this is another one I don't understand. You make it sound like the Jets had all kinds of injuries on the OL last season. The Jets have had tremendous luck with their OL....for several years. For example the Jets lost only 3 starter games last season and almost had a complete meltdown. Compare that to the Pats who lost 32 starter games on the OL and still had the 3rd best offense in the league AND went to the superbowl. Another stretch.

    5. While I think Shotty gets too much of the blame, that's just my opinion. So if your opinion is that Shotty was part of the problem, then this WOULD be an improvement.
     
  3. Barcs

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    :lol: so where's your assessment? Where's your 5 things that make us worse? Obvious troll is obvious.
     
  4. Barcs

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    Our dline is now the deepest unit on the team. All draft picks are unproven commodities. Bart Scott also lost weight and Maybin is looking amazing in camp. Wilkerson had a good rookie year and is expected to be better. Devito and Pouha are still good, and Ellis has gotten positive reports thus far. We had trouble stopping the run last year and all indications are pointing to this being a major strength this year as well as improved pass rush. This area of the team is better, no question.

    If the Dolphins "couldn't use him", then why did Sparano, the guy who was his coach last year, want him? Claiming our safety unit is weaker than last year is beyond absurd. Both Bell and Laron are upgrades over Eric Smith. BOTH. Our safety unit is unquestionably better. Laron had a couple rough years with injury, but he played 3 healthy years before that. I think the injury concerns are a bit over rated, and either way we are STILL BETTER at the position, as was my point.

    Schillens and Hill are both great blockers and also deep threats. This will allow us to actually run the ball without the opposition stacking the box. Schilens and Hill are BOTH upgrades over Plaxio last year. The dude couldn't get open to save his life.

    They did have all kinds of injuries last year. Mangold was out 3 games, we lost all 3 because we had nobody to match the depth and play the position. Slauson hurt his shoulder and something else, and continued to play despite that. This affected Brick. Hunter struggled. Ducasse is having a great training camp and could be a new starter this year on the line. Our line was beat to hell at the end of last year. I think even Moore was hurt at the end as well. So yes, a healthy o line is BETTER than an injury ridden one, even if you have the same exact personnel. Of course I don't think the personnel will be the same, I think Ducasse starts LG, and Slauson starts RT. That's better provided Ducasse keeps heading in the right direction.

    Schotty was OBVIOUSLY part of the problem. His clock management was absolute shit last year and he failed completely to consistently run the ball. Sparano will get that aspect back and make the blocking assignments on the line easier. We had the chance to beat the Giants, but Schotty 100% blew that game. First he devises a game plan of pass heavy offense with Sanchez injured. Stupid. We have the ball, down by 5 points at the 50 yard line with 4 minutes to go. Ideally you want to run down the clock enough to score and leave the offense with little time to respond. What does Schotty call? Pass, Pass, Pass. Schotty can fuck off, he either was a complete moron that game, or wanted to lose.

    Our team is improved. Anybody who can't see that is willfully ignorant.

    It's funny how Pats fans and darksiders agree all the time, yet our own Jets fans can't even agree with each other about the basics. Sad... I think darksiders outta just root for the pats.
     
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  5. Burnz

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    1. We have a strong rotation in DL and watch for Wilkerson and Ellis and Dixon who all add speed to the DL
    2. Both safeties are a upgrade regardless of coverage skills. And besides your patriot colored glasses make you think we constantly have 2 safeties on every defensive play also makes ur comments here null and if you believe Eric smith and leonard are better then the new duo your more of a troll then I thought
    3. Stephen hill instantly adds the threat of fly routes that will force the defense to account for him schillens can't stay healthy but also adds that speed on the outside
    4. No depth mangold went down slauson got nicked with a shoulder injury all year also speculation of hunter having an injury d brick had an off year but to over compensate the center of the line and the right of the line he was left on a island.
    5. Weather or not he is better or worse then soprano the entire offense has taken jabs at schittys game plans for years
     
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  6. joesmoe39

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    now he needs to learn what it takes to be a head coach, because after crying last year after the last game and being clueless about the team, he clearly has a long way to go! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Hard to take this post seriously without more exclamation points.
     
  8. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    You best stop calling me names since the Mods will ban U for it

    I guess ur reading skills need improvement I have posted numerous times my assessment of the 2012 NYJs & since you seemed to have missed them then go a searching to find them :sad:
     
  9. PatsFanTX

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    Yea, but the other 3 teams in the AFCE improved significantly more than the Jets.
     
  10. rohirrim665

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    HAHAH! Bravado and confidence is Rex's game, aren't we used to it by now?
     
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    The Dolphins improved more than the Jets? And I cannot wait til opening day. Fucking spank the bills.
     
  12. xxedge72x

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    Quantity perhaps. The Jets won the offseason as soon as Schottenheimer left.

    Easily the most underreported Jets story.
     
  13. displacedfan

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    The only team that got significantly better was the bills but it could be argued the jets were far ahead enough of the bills that at best the bills caught up to them. The dolphins haven't improved to catch up. All 3 haven't improved to catch the pats but out of all 3 the bills improved the most.
     
  14. GoPats

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    Actually, I'm another Pats fan, like CJLang, who really likes Ryan. He's the Anti-Belichick. Speaks his mind, over-shares at times, etc-etc. It's nice to see an interview with a coach that actually generates news.

    At first it was a little different, like, "Whoa, who the hell does this guy think he is?" But now I've kind of grown accustomed to how he operates and it's good to see a coach answering questions impulsively and without the same stock answers that BB always gives. I'd still take Belichick as a head coach over anyone, but defensively, Ryan is absolutely one of the best.
     
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    I don't agree with that. I think the Pats will have an off year. They are due after all the flukey wins in 2010 and 2011. I'd say the Jets and Bills are near even in terms of improvement, but the Jets had a smaller need to improve, so it's all relative. Don't forget just 2 years back we were 11-5 and beat the Pats 2/3 times. If you look at our team now, it's more similar to 2010 than 2011 minus the punting. Safety was a glaring weakness with Eric Smith. The oline was a glaring weakness with Wayne Hunter. The receiving core was a glaring weakness with no deep threat. Dolphins improved more than Jets? How so? Their QB situation is 1000x worse than ours. What did they do to get better?

    You won't like this but this is the division this year:

    Jets: 11-5
    Bills: 10-6
    Pats: 9-7
    Dolphins: 7-9
     
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