What's your point? The jets have fielded plenty of playoff teams. It can't all be about championships.
After Dilfer and that historic Ravens Defense in 2000, every SB winner (with the exception of the '02 Buccs) has been led by an elite franchise QB. Is that just coincidence?
And alot of it actually comes down to the actual execution on the field. The Jets are 0 of 4 in championship gams while the Giants are 5-0 I believe? We have had good teams, but just havent risen to the ocasion and made the plays when we needed to. Thats not even an organizational problem, its more of just being snake bitten or whatever you want to call it.
If Peyton Manning comes out when he should have and Parcells does the right thing then recent history is completely different.... Sometimes all it takes it luck and when you have a top pick and who is available. Look at Freaking Indy now - Really, they lose their best player and happen to fall completely apart the same exact year another franchise QB is sitting there???? Really????? Sheesh.
Joe Namath making that deal with the devil, I'm not saying someone has to take one for the team but one of you guys has to reverse that shit
Turk, Of course I wanna see the Jets win a ring..and no I'm not satisfied w/ the fact that they haven't done it in my lifetime. Does it haunt the franchise & the fanbase? of course it does. But to refer to the Jets as 2nd class, or a mickey mouse franchise is just off base. Only 1 team can win the super bowl a year. The jets have had many playoff appearances, memorable winning moments and quality football players.Have they fallen short of goal? They sure have. But for people to refer to them as complete failures is just off base.
At any point in post-70's history you can probably point to a time that the Jets needed two or three "transitional" seasons to address long standing problems. However, I appreciate that the franchise and it's fans will probably never show interest in a long term plan. I'm hoping that I don't look back on these recent years and think that the FO should have taken their medicine and addressed needs over several drafts and not gone for a mix of blockbuster contracts and hole-plugging with free agents.
Jets had the number one overall pick and Peyton decided to return to college for his senior year. If not, he would have been a Jet.
and that has to do with parcells not wanting to draft Manning because he didn't want to stick around and develop a young QB.
shitty ownership, no clear cut plan for long term development, awful drafting, abysmal coaching, bad free agent deals, the list could go on and on. but the biggest has to be bad luck. just awful awful luck.
yeah, basically. how do you explain Lou Holtz? Pete Carroll? Bill Cocksucking Motherfucking Belichick? Warren Sapp? Dan God Damn Marino? Favre, (not the 40 year old washed up one who had the best year of his career after he left us one), even Brady (won't really fault them for that one though, who would have thought?) i mean, if this franchise isn't cursed....
Absolutely, you look at nearly every team that is considered great and every organization and with very few exceptions most of their success is down to having been fortunate enough to have an elite QB, which the Jets have never had.
1. The general lack of philosophy and identity of who the Jets are. I am actually glad that Rex Ryan is identifying this problem from the get-go. Jets football is, even in the high-flying passing days of NFL, the hard-nosed smashmouth football as it stands. That's a start. And a very, VERY good start. (Last year was an aberration.) 2. Poor scouting. This is, in a nutshell, an extension from #1. Jets did not have an identity before, and thus they didn't have a structured way of building their team. i.e. OL for WCO and OL for ground-and-pound have very different requirements. Wanna see how Jets defense have been flip-flopping prior to Ryan's arrival? They have been shedding talents left and right, and it's not even funny. (Imagine if Jets had Farrior and Vilma at their LB corp when Ryan arrived - just an example.) 3. Mortgaging the future for the sake of the present. Somewhere down the line, Jets WILL have to take a spike year (or two, depending on the situation) since Jets have been restructuring contracts after contracts. Also, this is an extension of #2, and consequently, #1. (This includes giving monster contract to aging vets. Stupidity at its best.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It all starts from up top. Woody had better get a clue. All right - let's just look at the Gaytriots. Robert Kraft may be a jackass (Parcells hated Kraft trying to mess with the football team - which led to his exit) but at least he is a jackass with a clue. Woody Johnson? I don't think anyone can say the same.
