The 50's Lions had more success than the Jets have had in thier entire history... 3 NFL Championships which is equivalent to 3 Super Bowls plus 4 Conference Championships they also had a NFL Championship in 1935 in addition to 4 Division Championship Titles in the 80's... they have a total of 4 NFL Championships to our 1... so yeah, as a franchise the Lions have been more successful than the Jets. And yes, I'm aware they have been around longer.
Not winning the Superbowl for the last 42.5 years. Seriously, the Jets have been pretty close a few times. If they had gotten a little lucky one year and won the SB, we wouldn't be complaining. If Gastineau hadn't roughed Bernie Kosar 10 seconds after Kosar threw the ball, maybe... If the Jets hadn't slept through the 1st half of the Pittsburgh game in 2010, maybe... Look at the Giants - they've won 2 in the last few years just because they got hot at the right time, not b/c they are such a dominant team with loads of superstar game-changers. Put out a solid team and you can win it all. It just hasn't happened. I'm not saying that the Jets are such a great franchise, but they're not terrible either. They're probably average over the last 40 or so years.
Identity; When you look at Great Franchinses; they all do a few things that are a staple of the organization, NO MATTER WHAT. I think we have a solid plan for defining our Identity *Ball control (G&P) with a dose of play action *Punishing Defense
QUOTED.FOR.TRUTH. Bills fans can relate to that. :sad: Pats fans can, too, in that now they know what good ownership makes possible.
The Jets and Lions are 2 of 3 original teams (Browns are the other) never to play in the Super Bowl since the NFL/AFL merger.
Good/great teams make their own luck. Mediocre teams cry about their bad luck. Who's fault is the lack of a home field? That goes back to ownership IMO. At least it appears that the Jets at least have equality in the new stadium rather than being the Gnats' redheaded stepchildren.
IMHO total INEPTNESS from the owners Hess & WJ to the GMs Kensil comes immediately to mind to the HCs Kotex would be the inept of the inept's to the scouting dept just a total screwed up organization from top to bottom beginning 01/13/69 & continues to this day:sad:
Image in the sense that they're willing to make the splash. Certainly not that they're a clean cut team hah. I mean Braylon is starting to look like a choir boy with those DUI's and LeBron posse run ins. At least his issues were 100% off the field.
bullshit. The Tom Brady overturned fumble was pure luck. The tyree catch was luck. The immaculate reception was something so bizarre that I have never even seen a play come close to it in 40+ years (maybe the broncos bengals deflection 2yrs ago...) you guys should've won that super bowl. it's just more vagiants luck
What's been wrong with the Jets? 1970's Joe Namath's knees and then his shadow hanging over Richard Todd. 1980's Walt Michaels nervous breakdown and then Joe Walton taking over and running the team into the ground. 62 sacks for Ken O'Brien, how the hell did that happen with an offensive genius in control of the team? 1990's Leon Hess. 2000's Terry Bradway and then his shadow hanging over the team. You go 0-for-40 at the Super Bowl when nobody is particularly good at what they do. The Jets haven't had anybody in a position of consequence anywhere in the organization over the last 40 years who was just flatout excellent. Having a franchise CB is the perfect example of what's been wrong with the Jets over the last 40 years.
The fact that Revis turned into the best CB in football is a sheer bit of luck. It's not like the guy was a top 5 pick considered a blue chip must take player. There's nothing wrong with the fact that we ended up with him. While the rest of your post is true in general I feel that the Jets since Parcells have taken over are not the same Jets as prior to that. Still not Super Bowl winners but for the most part respectable... if not still frustrating. Still, the Jets are trending upwards over a longer period of time and I don't see that trend slowing down with Rex.
What's wrong is that the jets are treating Revis like the indispensable player on the team and allocating cap space accordingly. Sorry, that's just not going to work long-term. The Jets have the same problem with Revis that the Cardinals have with Larry Fitzgerald. Edge players just aren't core players on good teams no matter how you look at it and no matter how great they are. If they were then Champ Bailey and Nnamdi Asomugha and Darrelle Revis and Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson and Randy Moss and CJ would have a lot more rings than they do as a group (zero).
As of recently (like 2000 - present), I would say it can be attributed to the absence of a franchise QB who plays at an elite level. We thought we had one in Chad. We moved up to get Sanchez and we're waiting for him to develop. A top-tier franchise QB can change an entire organization.
Neither Drew Brees nor Philip Rivers were the magic bullet for the Chargers. Carson Palmer didn't get it done for the Bengals. Tony Romo hasn't gotten it done for the Cowboys. Daunte Culpepper didn't win one with the Vikings. Jim Kelly never won a Super Bowl with the Bills. A franchise QB helps but Super Bowls are still won by great teams over great passers even in the high-flying era we are in right now. The Jets have not won a Super Bowl in 40 years because never once in that 40 years have they had the best team in the AFC let alone the NFL. Want to win a Super Bowl? Build a great team. Want to build a great team? Build a great organization. Want to be like the Jets over the last decade or so? Keep grabbing at shiny things that pop up in front of you and put aside the hard work of building a great organization and team.
Except Revis doesn't have that monster deal like Calvin Johnson. The Jets have been playing stand off with Revis for his whole career basically. The contract he's currently playing under is a compromise. Hardly an "indispensable" position. They've maintained flexibility to make a decision on him later. I'd call that wise.
The shiny pieces that have popped up in the Tannenbaum decade have all been one contract pieces. With the exception of Santonio Holmes, the core of the team is built around guys that the Jets have drafted. The Jets do have a very good young core in place and those are the same players that will be here in another five years. The Jets may not be a great organization but they are trying their hardest to achieve that status. A Super Bowl victory achieves that status. I honestly don't feel the Jets have played themselves out of that. There is a lot of potential with this group and that's more than some teams can ever ask for. Also I'd say there's some validity to the QB argument. Over the last ten years the only QB to win the Super Bowl that wasn't elite was Rob Johnson.
I don't think its about building the greatest team in the league to win a superbowl. If that were true the Pats would have more rings and the Packers would have won last season. What the Jets need to do is be a consistent playoff team. It starts with good QB play and good coaching. If the Jets make the playoffs regularly the ball will drop their way and they will most likely win a superbowl eventually. It would help to be able to win the division instead of the wildcard but as the last few years have shown its more than possible to win the SB as a wildcard team.
