ESPN (Cimini) personal feud with Holmes

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  1. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    He had 8 of those last year
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Revis has been asked a million times and he always says he doesn't know if he will hold out. That's a threat.

    You like jenny Vrentas? I do too but check out this article from jenny:

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/04/jets_cb_darrelle_revis_wont_ru.html


    So Cimini didn't write it, can you believe it now?
     
  3. Jetscrazy87

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    xonsidering he had 640 something yards and 8 tds...still not that bad of a year although i would like to see more out of my number 1 guy. I think Cimini just loves to hate the Jets...guys never had much good to say about the team to begin with, I think Tone is right with this one.
     
  4. displacedfan

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    Well if you read what I wrote I said cimini wrote two and the writers I listed stayed grounded more than cimini. Also link doesn't work on my phone so I'll read it later but the article won't prove much as I never said those writers always write good stuff. You might have read that but i didnt write that. He doesnt know is a threat? A threat is I will hold out if I don't have a contract. Also tebow never said he's the backup, threat? McElroy never said he was a backup either threat? Right now the threat that revis will hold out is based on nothing concrete. All the evidence points that if he holds out next year he can make big money. This year holding out only works if he knows the jets will fold immediately.
     
  5. reverseapachemaster

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    I think what Holmes should have said was he wants the sports media to focus more on objectively reporting facts rather than just turning speculation into hits against the team. The problem isn't just that editorializing and opining has overtaken actual analysis or reporting. The problem is the editorializing and opining is done in its lowest form. An off the cuff comment by somebody or an alleged "inside" but unverifiable source makes a statement and it gets turned into a massive crisis. Then the author writes about it a few times until other outlets pick up the story, then everybody can beat out a few more stories about it. If it's true, you're a genius. If it's wrong, well move on to the next made up story.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's based on revis who will not commit to going to camp on time. he has repeatedly said he doesn't know, he may or may not. It's a story whether we like it or not. For me I'm not worrying about it until camp opens and he's not there but it's still a big story around the Jets.
     
  7. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    why would he commit now? if he came out and said that hes going to be at camp, theres no way he gets a new deal ... if he acts like hes not sure, maybe the jets approach him with a contract offer. this is a simple game of chicken, it doesnt need an article written about it every week

    like you, im not worried about it until he misses a day of camp or says that he wont be in camp
     
  8. Jetscrazy87

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    give me a break Cimini has been on the Jets back from day 1, Tone knows in this city the media wants to stir up some shit storm any chance they can get. Stop trying to stir up a qb contriversy, stop trying to get in between tone and sanchez, Revis hold outs and don't write something based on opinion...its that simple. When the season starts if there is problems on field, fire away, but until then shut your mouth.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    You guys have your perceptions, no matter what anyone in the media says you think they are biased against the Jets. Sometimes media members cross the line a bit but this wasn't one of those situations.

    here's a piece of advice- stop worrying about what others say about your teams and use your own eyes to evaluate so you don't have these issues in the future.
     
  10. Jetscrazy87

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    i did just defend tone on the simple fact Cimini does drive me crazy at times, but you are exactly right... you know your preception of the team and thats all that matters!
     
  11. Ajitator

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    This is not a story until he ACTUALLY holds out, Everything until then is just speculation. Bringing it up once during the offseason to remind us that its a possibility is fine. Making EVERY SINGLE interview with him about the hold out and making it seem like he's definitely going to hold out and reporting that the whole organization is screwed is asinine.

    What's the point of writing yet ANOTHER article about the possibility that maybe Revis is thinking about entertaining the idea of holding out. Report on something real concrete, and factual.

    If Revis holds out you can blast him and whoever else and put out articles every day until he shows up. The point is that the media would rather take the easy way out and report on the "lowest hanging fruit" So we get Revis and Tebow contract stories, Thanks but no thanks. I'll get my news from people who act like they enjoy reporting about the team, and not just bashing it.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    in the offseason everyone speculates and based on comments from Revis himself in 2010 AFTER he signed his new deal it was fair to bring up that he might hold out again this year.

    Cimini and every other media member on this story did the right thing by discussing it.
     
  13. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, the issue isn't with bringing it up once. The issue is hounding on the issue, and bringing it up every chance you get, and not reporting on anything else that might be actually perceived as news. Same way everyone is reporting that Tebow is going to be the starting QB for the JETS because Sanchez "can't handle the pressure". No one has any idea how Sanchez is going to handle this situation except that he's handled it thus far like a complete professional and has done everything in his and the coaches mind to improve himself and his team in the offseason.
     
  14. Jetscrazy87

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    When it comes to a hold out they should report it, but i wouldnt go speculating anything untill he doesn't show up for camp...
     
  15. Ajitator

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    This++++++++
     
  16. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    If there was any real threat of a holdout we certainly would have heard reports by now from good reporters, reporting - you know - actual news, that the Revis camp is looking to get a new deal. It's fair to ask the question, but to keep asking the question and to spin it as if Revis is threatening to hold out is a joke.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    it's a big issue, it's going to be discussed until camp arrives and Revis shows up.

    To me that's like saying I don't want to watch a game, just get me the post game highlights.
     
  18. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

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    No it's exactly the opposite.

    All of the action happens during the game. There's a lot more information to take in then the 30 second clip show they give you at the end of each game. That actually affects the way you could perceive the game.

    Here, the action is camp. And we're getting the Preview show, and it's all about Darelle Revis not being there.

    That's more like saying "I don't want to watch the game, I Just listen to the pregame show so I know what other people think is not going to happen during the game." If the story were to change, Then there's 100% need for that to be reported. But we've been hearing the same thing from every camp for the passed 3 months. There's been no new developments, just repeated stories of the same things and Revis giving a different kind of "Leave me alone" answer.
     
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  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    It's a big story whether you guys like it or not, when revis says he is 100% going or when he actually shows up is when specualtion will end.
     
  20. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It's a non-story, turned into a story by Dick continuously beating the drum. It would be a real story if a real reporter reported actual news. Until then ... yaaaaaaaaaaawn.
     

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