Exaggeration is one way to ruin a good argument. There's no way the Jets would ever get to week 6 and only be throwing the ball 15 times a game. That's below the level the Broncos were at last year after Tim Tebow took over and they basically dumbed the passing offense down to a just a few routes. It's quite possible the Jets will get to week 6 only completing 15 passes a game. That has to be what LT was talking about.
it depends on our record. if we are 4-1 going into week 6 and holmes has 8 catches i dont think he can say anything. flip the record though and i can see the potential for words. difference is this year the o.c. is liable to bench him then ignore it
Benching Holmes would be a catastrophic event for the Jets for the next year or two. The guarantee next year makes him immune to moves that would significantly lower his trade value in my opinion. If the Jets were going to deal with Holmes the time to do it was before they guaranteed 2012 and 2013. At this point they just kind of have to ride things out and hope it all works.
Agreed with the gist of what you're saying, but I'd be shocked if they only completed 15 passes per game. Might happen once, but not regularly.
Yea the only game it might happen is against the Bills who can get run on with ease. If the Jets are throwing 15 times a game and losing I can see it being a problem but I don't think that will be the case.
I don't think the Bills will get run on with ease. Their DL is vastly improved. Dareus will move inside and play alongside Kyle Williams. Mario Williams (if completely healthy) is a dominant force and they have brought in Mark Anderson on the other side. Their LB's could be a tough unit as well led by young MLB Kelvin Sheppard who is young, big, strong and very physical.
If the Jets go really conservative on offense they'll probably throw about 450 passes next year. This would be similar to the numbers that Drew Brees threw when the Chargers got conservative in Drew Brees 4th season in 2004. It would be similar to the numbers that Ben Roethlisberger threw when the Steelers went back to conservative in his 4th season in 2007. In other words if the Jets stated intentions of going to a more conservative offense are true then Mark Sanchez is likely to get dialed back by about 80 throws next season. Maybe more. Ok, so what do we know about where those numbers would lead? Sanchez is likely to complete 57-58% of his passes. That would be a similar improvement to what he has managed the last 3 years and in keeping with a more conservative game plan in general. He'll get more short make-able passes alongside a few more long bombs. Let's go whole hog and say that he manages to get to 60%, which would be in keeping with the progression of many NFL QB's in their 4th season. 450 * 60% = 270. 270/16 - 16.875. That's if he gets to 60%. I think a Jets offense completing 15 passes a game next year is distinctly likely at this point. If Tebow plays QB for any period of time it is probably the ceiling.
Sparano handled Brandon Marshall and his personality disorder pretty well. Not worried about this, they will be taking deep shots down the field.
That's very deceiving b/c he says if the Jets throw 15 times a game santonio will be upset, we aren't throwing as much as last year(unless we have to) but we sure won't be throwing only 15 times a game.
I hope we only throw 450 passes this year but there will always be a few games where we will throw more then 30 passes a game. If we are behind against say the Steelers I can see that number going up. Honestly though if we do throw 450 times this season that probably is a good thing. Means we are consistently playing the style our coaching staff wants and probably succeeding.
LT trying to stir the pot again. I hate speculation like this. It's useless. If the Jets are winning, Holmes won't care how many catches he gets. Holmes want to win. That's the most important thing and last season we were only .500 so he was frustrated, especially the way he wasn't getting all that many plays called for him. It would be different if he was getting tons of looks but dropping passes or screwing up the plays. I think Schotty was a much bigger problem in that regard and he was actually the one that lost the pulse of the offense. Rex was trying to protect Schotty when he took the blame. Sparano is one of those guys who doesn't take shit from anybody, so I think Holmes will fall in line. I'm tired of everyone giving Holmes so much hate because of one incident in one game after a poor season. He's a great receiver and is our #1 by far. We just need to step the running game up and have another legit deep threat on the other side to keep opposing D's from stacking the box every time. Hill can be that guy. We'll just see how long it takes for him to contribute consistently.
Mario isn't a dominant force in the pass game either, he's a GOOD pass rusher. he's not demarcus Ware
Well I'm not going to pull out my crystal ball but I don't see the Bills effectively shutting down our run game. Last year at home when the Bills stacked the box against the Jets Mark had one of his best games of the season. The one game where they didn't stack the box and that was actually a really close game we averaged like 6 yards a carry if I remember right. I really don't see the Bills being that different then they have been the last couple years. Their pass rush is certainly better and Dareus could be a big difference in the run game but with Mario Williams and Mark Anderson who is AWFUL in run support are out there they can still be run on.
But it's not last year. They are no longer running a 3-4 defense. They have upgraded their DL and coaching. They have a potentially stud MLB. Their front 7 this year is leaps and bounds above what they had last year.
I think its better but mainly better in passrushing not run defense. We will see I guess. They aren't the top 3 worst run defenses anymore but we also aren't the best run offense anymore. This is a game actually where I'd like to see Tebow get a fair amount of touches running the ball.
