Was Sanchez Injured last season?

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  1. dmarz45

    dmarz45 Well-Known Member

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    By week 16 or 17 every player in the league is banged up to some extent.. no excuses, we should be looking forward, not what happened last season.
     
  2. Big Blocker

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    I think we have been talking about different things, it finally dawns on me.

    Ftr I was not talking about whether I think Cavanaugh has been doing a good job. I was talking about what the view within the Jet organization is of Cavanaugh in respect of his handling of Sanchez. Certainly if one is inclined to blame Cavanaugh, or even to say he's not been effective even if you mostly blame Sanchez, the latter being more my own POV, I would agree that their retaining Cavanaugh hardly inspires confidence with the Jet organization.

    Hardly.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    maybe your confidence could be restored if we went back to the Coslet/Steinberg era or the Kotite era?
     
  4. Zach

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    You're talking. Finally. That's good. We agree on something after all.
     
  5. AbdulSalam

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    Is totally true. Sanchez doesn't run the ball. Sanchez doesn't run block. There are 10 other guys on the field that have greater responsibility for the success of the run than Sanchez does.

    If your point is that opposing Ds stack the box and that is when Schotty should had called quick passes - then that is on Schotty for once again calling a bad game.
     
  6. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    1. If you have no confidence in the way the organization is being run, what exactly are you a fan of? The color combination on the Jets' helmets? Our particular combination of players (most of whom have played/will play/both for another team)? Or just some distant memory of the way it was run back in '68?

    2. To the Pats fan who says "you can't teach leadership". I've seen 18 year old kids who were too scared to load their rifle on the range develop into leaders that anybody would follow into hell itself.

    3. Tebow is the backup QB? I'm fairly confident that Tebow is the wildcat QB (listed second on the depthchart), but if Sanchez goes down, McElroy will be the starter, and Tebow will be the wildcat QB (listed second on the depthchart), and someone will be signed/promoted to be McElroy's backup.

    P.S. IF #3 is not the case, I too, will question the way the organization is being run.
     
  7. AbdulSalam

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    how many heisman trophies and national championships and NFL playoff games has Mcelroy won?
     
  8. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    WRT #2, I don't know that what you are referring to would be considered as "teaching leadership". Sounds more like their natural leadership abilities were being suppressed by their insecurities/fears.
     
  9. AbdulSalam

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    Leaderships skills can be taught and acquired through experience, focus and effort. Most great leaders are not born leaders, leadership skills are developed through hard work.
     
  10. xc944

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    One guy sucked in his third year because his head bounced of a car and had appendicitis a week before the season. That was also following a Super Bowl and the playoffs which he played great in. Sb he wasn't good but the playoffs he was great. I would love to see how Sanchez plays after he bounces his head off anything
     
  11. cval

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  12. nyjunc

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    Hopefully Mark isn't stupid enough to go motorcycle riding w/o a helmet on.
     
  13. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    What about off Kate Upton's titties?

    maybe he was concussed
     
  14. PatsFanTX

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    Sanchez would probably fumble them.
     
  15. MoWilkShakes

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    How the fuck do any of you know if Sanchez is a leader or not? Have you been in a jets locker room?
     
  16. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    I think leading is not Sanchez's problem I think its his demeanor on the sidelines that is the difference between someone like him and Tebow. Sanchez throws a pick or the D gives up a touchdown and he just sulks out there. It gets really annoying. Tebow throws a pick and he's singing psalms and looks confident on the sideline. Sanchez needs to find a way to be consistently even keeled. Thats just my opinion anyway.

    As far as being a leader by work ethic in the locker room I think he is fine. All reports I hear is that he works harder then anyone else. He also starts things like Jets West to try and get him and his teammates together and on the same page.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    Team GM's come and go. You can't be serious to suggest that the typical fan is invested with the current GM. Or his staff.

    I do agree with 3, though. I have been saying and thinking all off season, the last time we had good reason to expect to see the #3 Qb take the field at some point during the season was when the FO stupidly signed an even more fragile Jay Fiedler to backup Chad. Sure enough they both went down in the same game.

    Let's hope we have reason to believe McElroy can do better than poor Brooks Bollinger.
     
  18. PatsFanTX

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    If Sanchez is injured, or benched for poor performance, there is not a chance in hell that Tebow would not be the starting QB.
     
  19. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The problem the Jets have right now is that their FO is too insular. Combine that with the same mistakes happening over and over again and it makes you wonder whether or not the Jets can get to the next level before it all comes crashing down again.

    Next season is as likely to be 4-12 as it is to be 12-4. The most likely result, barring significant injuries or a few possible breakthroughs is the same 8-8/9-7 type stuff that the Jets have done in 3 of the last 4 seasons. This assuming that no other teams in the AFC East not residing in Massachusetts takes a step forward.

    The NFL is a highly competitive environment. When you're consistently getting a particular level of results the odds are very good that that level of results is due to the input at the highest levels of management. That's where the most impactful decisions are made.

    My opinion is that the Jets are still being run in 2012 the same way they were being run in 2003 and that basic fact is the single most limiting factor on the Jets ability to take a step forward while not precluding the chance of a catastrophic result as occurred in 2003, 2005 and 2007.

    For those arguing that 2007 was 5 years ago I agree to a certain extent. That said, 1996 was 8 years before 2003 but that did not prevent a Jets collapse that season followed by a couple more in the 4 years after that.

    The FO has once again signed a few mid-level free agents, ones with both upside and failure potential. They have once again made a splashy trade to acquire a player whose previous team was moving heaven and earth to dump him. They have once again traded up to cherry-pick a player in the first few rounds. They have once again ignored obvious holes that the previous season exposed in the process of doing all of the above.

    That's a recipe for getting the same results the Jets have achieved under that modus operandi with the downside potential just as apparent as the upside.
     
  20. PatsFanTX

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    Your colleagues are probably going to bash you and call you a SOJF, but that post is a very accurate assessment of the state of the Jets.
     

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