Was Sanchez Injured last season?

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  1. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    Ok... back to the playcall debate that we all so love and enjoy.

    1. By the 2nd shoulder injury, Pennington could not drive the ball outside the hashmarks. So... that guy kept calling plays with primary route on OUT pattern (Coles). Yeah. That's Pennington's problem all right. At the end of the day, nobody put a gun in his head to throw those INTs along the sideline, after all.

    2. Favre later revealed that he injured his arm or something. Kept chugging. Kept throwing INTs. But it's old Burt throwing those INTs.

    3. Sanchez again. 64 pass attempts. Now, if his injury at that time was as severe as I think it is, then I don't know how anybody with half a sanity can defend this fucking idiot.

    4. As I grow older, and find more stuff about everything that is football, I am basically appalled by the utter lack of common sense in Brian Schottenheimer's offense. Really. Look. Bill Walsh established this thing called Situational Football back in 1980s. Ok? The only situational football Jets excelled during any phase of Schottenheimer's tenure was last year's red zone offense - and that was with Tom Moore overseeing the red zone offense at one time or another. Good fucking riddance. We all saw Sanchez throwing INT out of that infamous 1-read deep post pattern, OUT OF HIS OWN ENDZONE. Just what the fuck? I am so glad this fucktard is gone once and for all.

    (I am not blasting Schottenheimer for calling play action fake; I remember Aikman airing it out from his own endzone for some 96 yard TD. Calling play action when the defense is totally sold on running is a very viable play. So what is the problem?

    The TD play from Aikman involved Irvin taking two DBs toward one sideline, Harper going shallow post - crossing midfield, and Novacek cutting across for corner route. THAT IS AT LEAST THREE OPTIONS DOWN THE FIELD. OK???)

    5. Last, but not the least: the deep throws (20+) are not where the compromised arm strength/comfort level affects the most. Pennington, of all people, could drive 50+ yarder even after 2nd shoulder surgery. Those deep patterns usually develop out of 7 step drop, and with adequate protection, the QB gets ample time to set up his feet and drive the ball with his whole body without a defender breathing down his neck.

    It is the intermediate throws (10-15 yards) that this discomfort affects the most. You lose velocity and accuracy driving the ball, while having to deal with acute pain if you have a stinger. (Yeah. It's nothing. Really. My fucking ass.) Also, by the nature of the plays, usually they are 3 to 5 step drops, and with WFH playing on the right side, it was more than often that Sanchez had to hurry his throws. (Ok. 70 hits are not too bad compared to other teams, but that does not mean it is OK either. NFL site does not show how many throws were hurried due to porous protection, so I will leave that up to you guys.)

    It is those throws that Sanchez suffered the most too.

    6. We all know Sanchez was playing with some type of injury or another. abyzmul wrote a very telling column somewhere in this website. You should take a look.

    7. I know that junc will come up with anything remotely tangential to say "It is not his fault."
     
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  2. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    the oline was terrible last season. couldn't protect the qb and couldn't ground & pound w/any consistency. not surprised sanchez was injured b/c he was beaten up by opposing defenses all season due in large part to oline breakdowns.
     
  3. Jake

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    No shit. He just hasn't bitched about it and turned it into a story. Kid has handled the bullshit well.
     
  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    That is a good question. It's also possible the annonymous source was some practice squad scrub and Mehta took the opportunity to stir the pot.

    LOL @ Plaxico's unemployment.
     
  5. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    yet, wayne hunter still has a starting job.
     
  6. Footballgod214

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    I only got to the above post so this may be already covered.

    Yes, if a player's injuries make him a liability, then yes, he should pull himself out of the game. Take Sanchez...he got himself FUCKING drilled in the back several times. A type of impact that would send EVERY TGG member to the pine.

    But look who was playing behind him last year. A 67 yr old Namath wanna-be. Mark KNEW he was the ONLY option at QB, which in my opinion kept him in games he should have been on the sidelines.

    Fast forward to Timothy Tebow.

    Now that the Jets have offensive packages planned and practiced (wildcat) Mark may be quicker to seek a trainer during moments of sever pain.

    Having a tried and true back-up will let Mark stumble off the field when Wayne Fucking Hunter takes $3M to get Mark killed.
     
  7. MSUJet85

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    Jay Cutler was murdered for not coming back into the playoff game only to be later revealed that he had a severe injury, I couldn't imagine how Sanchez would have been crucified if he took himself out during a time where we needed to win to get in the playoffs
     
  8. AbdulSalam

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    Anybody who crucifies a player for being injured and unable to play is a moron. There are some injuries which the QB is expected to play through and there are some which impact his performance to the point where he is dumb to play b/c he becomes a liability. The fact that some dopes might want to crucify a qb for being injured doesn't mean its smart to risk additional injury by playing poorly. If Sanchez was truly injured he should have been taken out of the game or taken himself out.
     
  9. Brunell's Debt

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    Of course, it's also possible that Sanchez becomes less likely to seek the trainer now that Tebow's behind him (because he doesn't want to risk losing his job.)

    Jay Cutler is the most unfairly criticized player in football, bar none. If he wasn't so surly with the press, there's no way he'd be dragged through the mud like he is.
     
  10. ajax

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    That drama really made me lose respect for Bears fans' knowledge of the game. Even before Cutler's injury, he took massive hits for the entire season & most qb in the same position would not even be healthy enough to start that playoff game. That Bears OL was horrible.

    Cutler finally takes one hit too many and the Chicago fanbase cries like ignorant bitches.
     
  11. Jake

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    ^Agreed 100%.
     
  12. nyjunc

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    we were constantly in passing situations and spent most of the 2nd half playing from behind.
     
  13. Burnz

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    Can't agree more the kid knows how to deal with NYC and has shown some flashes which is why I still back him as our qb ... He Is just getting started
     
  14. JET'S_my_name

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    He's added some bulk this offseason, and that should help. If he does get hurt at least the back-up's middle name isn't Methuselah and can make something outta nothing.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Weren't there rumors that he had a shoulder injury in 2010 as well?
     
  16. alleycat9

    alleycat9 Well-Known Member

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    as much as i dislike sanchez i will give him credit for being tough. the kid keeps coming back time and time again.

    luckily this year there will be a guy who can do more than stand on the sideline, i think we can all agree that tebow is at least more capable than a 45 year old brunell.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    I would not say I dislike Sanchez, but I have been quite critical of him. that does not extend to his taking hits, though - he gets up from hits that would have ended Chad's season.

    But Tebow? Please. Keep that rah rah stuff on the Tebot threads. McElroy, baby!
     
  18. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    We have 2 really tough QBs. Tebow is tough as nails. Doesn't make him a good QB but when he is running the ball he puts a hurting on people. Watch that last drive in the Jets Broncos game where that Mary Cromartie was too afraid to tackle him.
     
  19. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    To his immense credit, Sanchez never once used an injury as an excuse for a poor performance. The only thing that matters now, is for our O line to keep him healthy this season.
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    Cro is one of my favorite players on the team. Tebow? Not so much.
     

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