D'Brickashaw Ferguson likes new QB

Discussion in 'Tebowmania' started by neid92, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. Bannon

    Bannon New Member

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    I think Rich Gannon is also instructive -- arguably "later" than Young.

    The sun will come up no matter what happens -- he's a an elite athlete that can help a team win, and be a great backup quarterback.

    If people would just unclench, he's a lot of fun to watch.
     
  2. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    I think that he had and still has a whole lot more to work on than most other QBs. I mean, it's going to take lots of hours and thousands upon thousands of reps to retrain his muscle memory with his throwing motion.

    Then add to that, his footwork and timing on dropbacks from under center.

    Along the way, he also has to get much better at reading defenses and learning when receivers are actually "NFL open".

    Last year was kind of a mixed blessing. It definitely gave him a lot of good experience, which he needed, but it also took away from him working on the fundamentals that he still has to improve upon.

    I mean, when your the starting QB and the team is practicing the game plan for the upcoming game, you can't really spend a ton of time on practicing your dropbacks, your reads, etc, etc, etc.

    From the outset, Tebow was seen as a "project QB" who was going to need more time to develop than most other "project QBs", simply because he had more areas that needed a lot of improvement. He was seen as a 3-4 year project based on what I have read/heard.
     
  3. metsnjets

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    Actually, if he was fun to watch I would be less likely to get angry over the constant hyperbole his supporters throw around. Fact of the matter he is hard to watch, the Jets game last year I found my self yelling at Tebow to throw the ball for cripes sakes and he was playing US.

    I saw about 4 full games of his and there were times I felt sorry for the kid. He seemed outmatched and extremely tentative and lost at times.
     
  4. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    The way Tebow looked against the Pats was an embarassment to football fans everywhere.
     
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    Denver was down 35-0 at half time. He was playing safety?
     
  6. Burnz

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    No but he couldnt score on the worst D
     
  7. metsnjets

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    Its not his fault Burnz. It never is. The play calling, OC, HC,DC, fans, o-line, the sun, the moon, the tides, Saturn, fleas, ticks, dogs, gravity, science, grapes and everything else real and imagined are all to blame for that loss. But never ever never ever Tebow. EVER.
     
  8. Bannon

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    There's a big, big gap of space between "not his fault" and "embarrassment to football fans everywhere."

    It wasn't a good game for him, but for the reasons given it doesn't mean he can't play and should be given up on. It was one game, and the deflected blame is for why it was SO bad, not to transform it all the way into a good game.

    So negative, so bitter.
     
  9. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I can see where that would be irritating. I mean, a long time veteran QB like Tebow shouldn't be like that, huh ???
     
  10. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    You mean the "worst D" that held Eli Manning and the Giants offense to 19 pts in the SB ??
     
  11. Bannon

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    I would also add Steve McNair to my earlier thoughts.
     
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    Well... he did score on the best passing defense in the league a week earlier...

    Just sayin...
     
  13. Zach

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    Sanchez looked better than Tebow against Pats D. (Which isn't saying much.)
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    Yep.

    I think what goes on with the Pats D is partly a function of Belichik, to be sure. Yea, personnel wise they are pretty weak as a unit. But if Belichik sees an opponent who is too one dimensional, and in particular too one dimensional in a way that he can deploy his D to counter, he will do so. And be effective.

    Teams, which really is most teams that the Pats face over the course of the year, that have at least a somewhat varied and capable O, will change it up during the game to thwart Belichik's approach.

    Denver did not do that. They failed miserably, because Tebow was not capable of changing it up.

    That about covers it.
     
  15. Demosthenes9

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    You'll probably accuse me of being a homer on this one too, but Tebow and Denver did change things up against the Steelers. Most of the big plays were from a conventional offensive set, with Tebow under center, and they were play action passes.

    Belichik and the Pats ran a 5-2 (50) defense and the Broncos never seemed to be able to figure it out. It's like McCoy had never seen it before and didn't know what to do against it.
     
  16. Bannon

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    I thought the play-calling against Pittsburgh was the best all year. And I thought Tebow improved his "pull the trigger," which had reached an all-time low by the end of the season. He had become addicted to staying in a game by being overly cautious, and winning it at the end. Against the Steelers, the play-calling was pretty good (though it settled in as predictable), he let fly with some gutsy throws.

    The thing that gets overlooked is that the Steelers game could have almost been a beat-down. If McGahee doesn't fumble that ball, and if that blown call on the lateral pass by Ben didn't happen, the Broncos could have put them down big time.

    It was frustrating. Just kept running the same thing into the same buzzsaw. He had them right where he wanted them -- that's what you want, is the opponent overreacting to your strength. Then you spread it out and pop them.
     
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    No, it's perfectly understandable for someone way in over their head. It doesn't make it any less sad for the kid.
     
  18. phaytal

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    You need to re-watch the game film if you think it had anything to do with McCoy pal. Tebow failed to execute the entire game. He was like a deer in headlights. He had wide open receivers all game underneath, and ran around like a fucking retard instead of throwing the football. The game was over by halftime because he couldn't move the god damned chains.

    He was 9/26 on 34 pass plays called, against one of the worst defenses in the league. Let's say that again. 9 for 26 on 34 pass plays. 4 out of the 5 sacks he took were 100% his fault as well.

    Face it, he shit the bed in a big way.
     
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  19. Demosthenes9

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    Oh, he had receivers open underneath all day long ? Really ? I seem to recall that the Pats were rushing 5 defenders all day long, many times against a 5 man line and Ninkovitch was spending more time in the backfield than the Denver running backs. Also, the "underneath" was pretty crowded considering that passing lanes were clogged and the Pats LBs were sitting there.

    Seems that you have no freaking idea how to attack a 50 D either.
     
  20. phaytal

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    9 for 26, 5 carries for 13 yards, and a fumble against a bad defense.

    He clearly didn't pray hard enough.
     

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