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  1. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I'm not really sure what to read into that. My opinion isn't popular among Bills fans, but I don't see a reason to keep him on the team. He can do a lot of things, but he's "good at everything, not great at anything." He's an average WR, probably a below average QB, average to below average returner, and we didn't use him in the wildcat much last year.

    Add to that the fact that we have guys as good or better in each of the areas he's good in (Fred Jackson, Stephon Gilmore in wildcat, added Vince Young as a QB who can run similarly, added some more receivers, and we've always had great return men with Spiller, McKelvin, Gilmore, Graham, etc.) and I dont really see why he's necessary. Plus, I think he's making about 4 million a year.

    I dont know if this move to QB is a last-ditch effort to try and find him a permanent home (he's not a RB, and not a good WR) or if they actually have some sort of niche plans for him there. If it were up to me, I'd let him go. I just dont see the value.
     
  2. BuffaloPhysco

    BuffaloPhysco Member

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    I see everything your saying but I have to respectfully disagree. I don't care that we added Vince Young. For all we know he may not have the mental capacity to learn the playbook or even be a backup QB anymore. Brad Smith was amazing in the wildcat, they ran it atleast a dozen times last pre-season on 3rd and shorts and he converted every single time. Looks like they were gonna use that in the regular season too until he threw that pick in the KC game. Which they had stuck with it a little more.

    Now I don't understand this thing only working him out at the QB position though. He is versatile and makes great depth for multiple positions. Every team needs a Brad Smith type player. I hope he makes the team, Thigpen should be cut.

    P.S I think Mckelvin may be cut too.
     
  3. GoPats

    GoPats Well-Known Member

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    Salary reasons? Or performance?
     
  4. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    There's no way he's going to be cut. He's been starting so far in camp and has been one of the better performers on the defense. He's in the last year of his contract with a new D-coordinator who wants to see what he can do with him in the new defense. He might not be re-signed after the year, but theres no way they're cutting him now before they find out what they can get out of him.
     
  5. BuffaloPhysco

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    Its pretty clear to me that Gilmore and Aaron Williams will be the starters. Maybe McGee will start if he can get through camp and pre-season and enter the season 100%. Mckelvin got beat over and over again last year. Terrible ball skills on deep passes, seems the WR always made a spectacular catch on him. Thats why he was benched. Very frustrating to watch. He's solid depth but I wouldn't be surprised to see him cut. If we do keep him, I would like to see him in the nickel packages. Even if he does perform and have his best year, I doubt we resign him next year. I'm not expecting anything from him anymore and I'll consider anything he does a bonus. Gilmore/Williams are the future.
     
  6. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Vince Young: dumber than dirt

    Wonderlic Test Score Results (out of 50):

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: 48

    an ashtray: 9

    a cucumber: 8

    a TV remote: 7

    [size=+1]Vince Young: 6[/size]


    Coach him up?
    Ryan Fitzpatrick - Vince Young: never the 'brain twain' shall meet.
     
  7. BuffaloPhysco

    BuffaloPhysco Member

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    "6" has a better winning percentage in this league then "48" though. I don't put to much into the wonderlic tests. Show me their actual football intelligence.
     
  8. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    I almost forgot you haven't been to a superbowl since 69 what have you done since oh that's right it's nothing to really smile about when i talk about your history.
     
  9. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Bills fans who go a year and a half between posts mocking the Jet's Super Bowl futility are the grooviest.
     
  10. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    A person posting with a picture of Bruce Coslet let me guess your a jets fan?
     
  11. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    Bills haven't been to the playoffs in over a decade. Bills also haven't won a SB since 1969 either. I wouldn't really tout your franchises "success" over anyone considering you don't have any.

    Edit: I'm not a Jets fan.
     
  12. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    Who's your team?
     
  13. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    So your a pats fan i really hope your not a bandwagon nuthugger anyway's congrats on winning superbowl and not your on a 2 game superbowl losing streak.We all know your team is still good and i give you props but your not great any teams are catching up.

    We all know we haven't made the playoffs and we've had our chances and yes we have no superbowls and yes the jets have a superbowl title that was in 1969 heck they won the superbowl in 1969 and we had more success then them without winning a supebowl
     
  14. NYDeadEye

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    So not only have you not won a single SB nor made the playoffs in a decade+ but your franchise is more successful?
     
  15. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    You're on a 4 SB and counting losing streak. I can play this game too. The difference is that my team is in contention every season for over a decade. Bills will be an afterthought to all fans until the team proves otherwise. Overpaying for a pair of passrushers doesn't make you legitimate.
     
  16. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    Stupid

    Jets history

    Super Bowl Champions: (1)
    III (1968)

    AFL Champions (pre 1966):
    None

    AFL Championship Games (Pre-1966):
    None

    AFL/AFC Championship Games: (5)
    1968, 1982, 1998, 2009, 2010

    Division Champions: (4)
    1968, 1969, 1998, 2002

    Playoff Appearences: (14)
    1968, 1969, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2010

    Record in Playoff Games:
    12-13 .480

    Hall of Famers: (7)
    Weeb Ewbank Coach 1963-1973
    Ronnie Lott S 1994
    Curtis Martin RB 1998-2005
    Don Maynard WR 1960-1972
    Art Monk WR 1994
    Joe Namath QB 1965-1976
    Jon Riggins RB 1971-1975


    Retired Numbers: (3)
    12 Joe Namath QB 1965-1976
    13 Don Maynard WR 1960-1972
    73 Joe Klecko DE 1977-1987

    Pro Bowl MVP: (6)
    1966 Joe Namath QB
    1967 Verlon Biggs
    1968 Don Maynard WR
    1968 Joe Namath QB
    1985 Mark Gastineau LB
    1999 Keyshawn Johnson WR
     
  17. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    Buffalo

    BuffaloBills history

    Super Bowl Champions:
    None

    AFL Champions (pre 1966): (2)
    1964, 1965

    Super Bowls Appearances: (4)
    XXV (1990), XXVI (1991),
    XXVII (1992), XXVIII (1993)

    AFL Championship Games (Pre-1966): (2)
    1964, 1965

    AFL/AFC ChampionshipGames: (6)
    1966, 1988, 1990, 19991, 1992, 1993

    Division Champions: (10)
    1964, 1965, 1966, 1980, 1988, 1989, 1990 ,1991, 1993, 1995

    Playoff Appearences: (17)
    1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1974, 1980, 1981, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999


    Record in Playoff Games:
    14-15 .483


    Hall of Famers: (9)
    Joe DeLamielleure G 1973-79, 85
    Jim Kelly QB 1986-1996
    Marv Levy Coach 1986-1997
    James Lofton WR 1989-1992
    Billy Shaw G 1961-1969
    O.J. Simpson RB 1969-1977
    Bruce Smith DE 1985-1999
    Thurman Thomas RB 1988-1999
    Ralph Wilson Owner 1960-Pres.


    Retired Numbers: (1)
    12 Jim Kelly QB 1986-1996


    Wall of Fame: (27)
    Eddie Abramoski Trainer 1960-95
    Joe DeLamielleure G 1973-79, 85
    Elbert Dubenion WR 1960-1968
    Booker Edgerson CB 1962-1969
    Joe Ferguson QB 1973-1984
    Phil Hansen DE 1991-2001
    Kent Hull C 1986-1996
    Robert James CB 1969-1974

    Pro Bowl MVP: (4)
    1973 O.J. Simpson RB
    1988 Bruce Smith DE
    1991 Jim Kelly QB
    1993 Steve Tasker ST
    Bob Kalsu G 1968
    Jim Kelly QB 1986-1996
    Jack Kemp QB 1962-1969
    Marv Levy Coach 1986-1997
    Patrick McGroder VP 1962-1985
    Andre Reed WR 1985-1999
    Jim Richter C 1980-1993
    George Saimes S 1963-1974
    Tom Sestak DT 1962-1968
    Billy Shaw G 1961-1969
    O.J. Simpson RB 1969-1977
    Fred Smerlas DT 1979-1989
    Bruce Smith DE 1985-1999
    Mike Stratton LB 1962-1972
    Darryl Talley LB 1983-1994
    Steve Tasker ST 1986-1997
    Thurman Thomas RB 1988-1999
    Ralph C. Wilson Jr. Pres. 1960-P.
    "The 12th Man"-Fans of Buffalo
     
  18. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    Just got owned


    First of all to sit there and say your franchise has been more sucessful then us how old are you? because i just proved overall our history was better.
     
  19. BuffaloStampede

    BuffaloStampede New Member

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    Congrats

    The Bills will be an afterthought to all fans? we haven't made the playoffs this decade and we still show up to the games it's called selling out games. We all know you've been in playoff contention just like this year you guys have the easiest schedule in the league.I know one thing at least we didn't cheat games to win (spygate) plus why do people:) act like mario williams is the only player we got in free agency haha.
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    you guys sell out games? That's news to me.. and news to everyone in Buffalo who had to listen to their home games on the radio because you guys didnt sell a game out after week 9 last season- november 6. Ouch.
     

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