WFH Endorsement?! Callahan Thrown under bus?

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Ajitator, May 16, 2012.

  1. BeastBeach

    BeastBeach Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    401
    I'm not saying you are wrong because Ireland's reputation is clearly questionable but the confidence Sparano and Degu are showing towards Wayne Hunter is eerily similar to the confidence they had in Marc Colombo at RT last year.

    That did not turn out well.
     
  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2003
    Messages:
    24,461
    Likes Received:
    862
    Someone should tell DeGuglielmo that he is no longer on the Dolphins staff, because the only reason you would be excited about Wayne Hunter is if he was your opponent.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Bill Callahan
     
  4. SanityRemoved

    SanityRemoved New Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    So if Hunter remains Turnstile this season should he and DeGuglielmo be shown the door?
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    so you would prefer if he says "Wayne Hunter sucks, I can't wait until we find a replacement for him". Wayne lost confidence last year(for good reason) and the new OL coach is trying to build him back up. Our biggest hole is RT, Wayne showed he could play 2 years ago coming in as a backup late in the year, last year w/ a new contract and being an opening day starter he failed. He has ability.
     
  6. DoubleA

    DoubleA Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Finally, someone showing some intelligence. Good post.

    Players are allowed to have off-years, and last year was Hunter's. I think he'll be fine in the new man-to-man blocking scheme.
     
  7. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    4,030
    Likes Received:
    71
    I could have sworn a bunch of Fin trolls were here clamoring about how good their OLine with only a little talent the last couple yours. Maybe not you specifically but, a couple of your fellow gay teal buddies.
     
  8. Catt_County

    Catt_County Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2005
    Messages:
    823
    Likes Received:
    0
    Tannenbaum has given the Jets a pretty "barren roster" when it comes to the OL and RBs, both of which as major needs for a team that says it plans to "pound and ground".

    He has given the Jets a not-so-secret weapon in Tim Tebow, though, so maybe all is not lost. I don't think 8-8 will take the AFCE though.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Miami's OL was so bad Reggie Bush had his first 1,000 yd season(previous high: 581)
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    a 1,000 yd RB
    2 AP caliber OL

    He's done ok. You may want to worry about your OL.
     
  11. SanityRemoved

    SanityRemoved New Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2009
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    0
    Look at the O lines that Callahan coached without Hunter, did we have problems with them? Man on man, Hunter got beat in rag doll fashion many times last season.

    I don't care if DeGuglielmo wants to blow smoke and promote a player but to insinuate that it was solely due to Bill Callahan is ludicrous.

    It's evident that the Jets didn't learn that if you talk the talk you have to walk the walk after last season's never ending spoutings by Rex. On game day the truth will be shown whether Hunter has improved, I'd like to see he has.
     
  12. Catt_County

    Catt_County Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2005
    Messages:
    823
    Likes Received:
    0
    :rofl: How about DeGuglielmo just NOT pretending that Hunter is the greatest thing since white bread?

    Hunter is what he is: a career backup elevated to a starting role because the Jets couldn't find anybody better, including their second round draft pick.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Hunter was bad last year but all of our OL problems were not on him. Slauson was playing hurt and he's ok when helathy, Mangold missed games and was playing hurt most of the year, Moore missed all of camp and was recovering from injury, our best backup OL was lost in preseason. There were any factors why the OL stunk, Wayne was probably #1 but it wasn't all him.

    he's trying to build him back up, do you want him to bash Hunter?

    Remember, he started down the stretch in 2010 and 2 of the 3 postseason games and he played well for the most part.
     
  14. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    13,104
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    I think Teddy Roosevelt would have a hard time supporting the apparent approach of the Jet organization this year.

    Or as Freddie the Minister of the Interior said in A Clockwork Orange,

    "But enough of words, actions speak louder than. Action now. Observe all."

    We will just have to wait to observe.
     
  15. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,276
    Likes Received:
    243

    I'm all for it if this guy can step up and be the guy he was for us in the playoffs 2 years ago. My post is mainly brought up because of confusion, I've never heard anyone ( asided from that tidbit from callahan last preseason ) saying a nice thing about Hunter, and this guy seems to think he's a pro-bowler.

    It also concerns me because Ducasse was supposed to be the awesome physical raw specimen. If he's talking up Hunter so much he really can't be impressed with anything he sees from King Ugly.
     
  16. Catt_County

    Catt_County Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2005
    Messages:
    823
    Likes Received:
    0
    Really?

    The Jets ranked 16th in rushing attempts but only 29th in yards per carry (3.8). The Jets averaged 105+ yards on 27+ carries a game. The Jets longest run from scrimmage: 31 yards.

    Slausson is a journeyman guard who replaced a Pro Bowl caliber guard. Hunter is career backup who replaced a Pro Bowl caliber RT. Turner, the backup center, was hurt last season with dire consequences for the Jets, but not only was he allowed to walk in FA, but the Jets brought in nobody to play center if Mangold goes down again.

    Greene, McKnight, and Powell are pretty thin pickings at RB. Would McKnight and Powell make any other NFL team? I really don't know.

    I'd say that's a pretty bare roster for a would-be run-first team.

    As for the Bills, they ranked 27th in rushing attempts but 4th in yards per carry (4.9). They averaged 120+ yards on 24+ carries a game. The Bills longest run from scrimmage: 80 yards for a TD. They have two premier RBs in Jackson and Spiller, who proved himself after Jackson broke his leg.

    The Bills did "worry about their OL" this off-season. Being dissatisfied with their OT play and their OL depth (they ended up starting a rookie at LT because of injuries), they drafted 2 OTs, including a 2nd rounder, and a OG/C in the draft plus they signed a couple of UDFA OLers ... and they don't pretend to be a run-first team. If their young OTs work out, they will be better suited to running a "ground and pound" offense than the Jets.
     
  17. JAG

    JAG New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2011
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yup a perfect fit
     
  18. FrankWhite

    FrankWhite New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wayne Hunter is an odd choice for who to pin your reputation on.. He's basically guaranteeing Hunter won't suck. I don't see it..
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    Our OL stunk last year, where did I say otherwise> but I see it as a 1 year aberration as Slauson was hurt all year, Mangold was hurt all year, Hunter struggled and Moore missed all of camp rehabbing so he wasn't fully healthy.

    Aren't journeymen guys who move from team to team? Tis will be Slauson's 3rd year starting for us in a row.

    McKnight was the gbest KR in the game last year, considering Buffalo overpaid for Brad Smith i'm sure they'd find a role for McKnight.

    I like Spiller's potential but what did Spiller prove in meaningless blowout games late in the year?

    Buf has better Rbs w/o question and the DL is better but everywhere else? it's pretty much Jets.

    the Bills also drafted a top 10 RB who hasn't shown top 10 potential yet, they drafted Maybin who did nothing for you, Mckelvin, ... let's allow these guys to prove themselves before we say you fixed your Ol problems. You guys had a good run blocking OL but a poor pass blocking OL.

    Ground and pound is a mindset, it doesn't mean we will run 40 times a game and pass 20. We will have a balanced offense.

    You supposedly have the better QB(laughable), better RBs, better WRs, better OL- how come our O as bad as they were outscored yours? When your D stopped turning it over and scoring, your O stopped being productive and your season tanked.
     
  20. EastVillager

    EastVillager Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    0
    This. DeGuglielmo is a well known idiot. For all the bitching about WFH around here, I'm pretty sure Marc Colombo was rated worse by the statistic services. Also... have the Dolphins developed a late round offensive lineman draft pick into anything the last four years?

    Other than the Wildcat, the Dolphins were not a very effective running team the last four years. In 2009, when the Wildcat was shut down, the Fish were like last or next to last in YPC.
     

Share This Page