this amazingly incorrect on just about every point post isn't worth dignifying with a response other than to say what I just said amazingly incorrectr on just about every point
To answer the OP: not as good as the two years before, but without a pass rush it's hard to have the same kind of success when you're that much on an island. Plus teams are scheming ways to attack him more.
Your first paragraph effectively amounts to a statement that correlation proves causation, which is a logical fallacy. The fact that over a random period of time a majority of teams may have played mostly a zone pass D does not mean, going forward now, that a given team that plays mostly man is at some disadvantage. There was a phase there where offenses had difficulty attacking zones like the cover 2. That has not been the case for some time. I invite you to attempt to prove that as of NOW the cover 2 is the best pass D to use. Your second paragraph failed to address the fact that Revis is not overpaid compared to other Jet players with big contracts who do not perform up to his level. For example if Mark Sanchez were making as much as some of the other bottom quarter of the league's Qb's, they would have more money to use elsewhere, too. At least it would be fair to take it away from an underperformer like him. Aside from as a fan enjoying watching a Jet player perform at such a high level, which is part of the pleasure of being a fan, I buy in to Ryan's approach to pass D, which is that having two corners who can play man allows the rest of the D to be more flexible and change up the way they attack the opponent's offense. Yes, they were clearly losing something by not having a better pass rush and more overall speed at linebacker. But it was still a fifth ranked D last year. The reason the Jets were average last year is that they had a 23rd ranked Qb and a 30th ranked rushing average. Not because of Revis.
No it's not b/c the reason we were average wasn't b/c of the QB. It was b/c of the OL first which prevented us from running the ball effectively in the first half of the year and in turn affected the pass game and the front 7 of the D. Those who blame the QB or think he is the most to blame do not know what they were watching.
time to move on really last year was last year biggest change Son of Marty has been sent packing to ruin the career of Sam Bradford
One of the many reasons you have no clue what you are talking about, isntead of reading and learning you continue to ignore and post your misguided views.
So the Packers and Steelers have good offensive lines? The Colts did when Peyton was there? What you're really saying is that Sanchez isn't good enough to still be effective behind a bad/mediocre offensive line. That right there is generally a sign you need a better QB.
You could argue that it was because of the 23rd ranked QB and 30th ranked rushing offense, which were in part ranked so low because of that OL I suppose. I think that offense in general was the main cause, along with some special teams disasters at bad times. On defense, the front seven really wasn't up to standard, but the D was still keeping the team in games that they really had no right to be in considering the points put up by the Jets offense.
That makes me feel really good about Stevie Johnson. Because Stevie was the only receiver in the NFL who played well against Revis. 11 receptions for 160 yards and a TD in two games is a good stat line against average corners. Against Revis, that's great.
Well yeah, but the Jets won both games despite Revis not having a particularly good day either time. It's kind of amazing given Revis skills that the Jets tend to win on the few occasions where he is not playing well or at all. That's kind of CB impact in a nutshell.
And its funny when Revis has a great game we win (Dallas and Miami). You can't pick one random game where a wide receiver dropped a game winning catch and use that as an example to say that's a CB impact on the game. That's a terrible argument. We don't know how much the defense is built around Revis. I bet its a lot since we don't have a pass rush. We can argue on how much to pay Revis but he is currently vital to our defense and we need him
for real. im willing to bet rex places a shitload of value on the fact that he doesnt have to worry so much about gameplanning for the other teams number one cause revis is gonna fuck their day up. not to mention how much film the guy watches, he is a huge asset on defense and one of the better tackling corners in the league. he is the cornerstone of our defense. (get it? )
Revis, despite being tested so little last year, also tied for leading the team in interceptions. He is a sure tackler who tightens up his coverage as the game goes on. He is also the main reason the Jet pass D is so effective.
Yes, those teams had good offensive lines- much better than ours in 2011 who couldn't run block or pass protect. Don't confuse allowing sacks w/ an OL being poor. Some QBs hold onto it longer looking for big plays, others are on the move trying to buy time w/ their legs but none of those guys had to deal w/ an OL as poor as Sanchez had in 2011.
So what you're saying is the Indianapolis Colts o-line that went from being good enough to post a 10-6 record with Peyton under center to barely able to win a game or block anyone without him the next year suddenly went into the toilet? Like all on their own? It had nothing to do with the quarterback? Bullshit. They were good enough because Peyton is just that good. It was poor quarterback play that exposed that o-line, just as it exposed the entire team.
Yeah, it had nothing to do w/ a 40 yr old QB signed off his couch just before the season or Curtis Painter taking over. It was the OL. Isn't it amazing w/ how bad the OL was that Donald Brown averaged 4.8 YPC? That Wayne and Garcon almost had 1,000 yds each? The OL was fine, of course having a great QB make quick decisions and great pre-snap reads will help an OL but to act like that OL was anywhere near the jets OL is laughable. Indy was competitive and losing early then the team flat out quit, it was an aging team that still had talent and that OL was better than ours.
Exactly. This is the point I was trying to make. Mediocre o-lines don't look so bad when a great QB is behind them. If Sanchez can't raise his level of play to mitigate the failings of the o-line then it's going to be a long season, because it's not like anything's really changed up front. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Other than a new OC, very little has changed between the OL and the QB. I'm not sure why people are expecting different results.
