How do you know that? in the SB they took over inside their 20 w/ just over a min left and no TOs. They had over 2 mins left, let's say Brown has an average return and they started at the 28. You don't think they could have gone 44 yds in 2 mins w/ the 2 min warning? who cares if there was anything great about the 25 yarder, they made the play on a 2nd and 19 in a blizzard. Why do plays have to be spectacular to count?
in the SB they were going up against a soft defense who thought they were going to play for OT and got spectacular plays by JR Redmond to get them into position. In the AFCDG they weren't going 44 yards. They only went 25 in the 1 1/2 minutes they had the ball. They were fortunate enough to start with great field position. It matters when you post "Brady completed 25 yd pass on next play" as if he threw a lazer into double coverage. I'm asking you what he did to make that 25 yard pass play. Was it a lazer into double coverage? Or was it a screen pass that Patten ran 25 yards up the field behind blockers?
You don't know that. What we know is that Goodell said there wasn't evidence that they taped the Rams walk thru. He's the same man that immediately destroyed all of the evidence of their filming. Why did he do that? It's also curious that he's been extremely forthcoming with information regarding the Saints Bounty scandal.
whatever the excuses are they produced a legendary drive in SB history. it's so silly to say they wouldn't have had a chance w/o the PR. You are always irrational w/ your Brady hate but this tops it off. I don't remember the play, it may have been all Patten but either way they got the important 1st down and the man led them to a win over a good Oakland team in a blizzard where he had to throw 50+ times w/ very little help from his run game.
we don't know that when the Pats were cleared but we know Brady couldn't lead a team 44 yds in over 2 mins. Got it:lol:
Typical junc response. Excuses. It's laughable. I didn't say they didn't have a chance. I said they wouldn't have done it. 50+ passes? Their passing game was essentially just an extension of their running game.
Yes typical me who deals in reality while you make excuse after excuse to take away credit from Brady. 50+ passes in a BLIZZARD, they had a pretty good run game that year but no that day so not only was he passing all night in blizzard conditions he did so w/ no threat of a run game. In Pitt the next week Brady & Bledsoe combined for 39 attempts in the SB Brady threw it 27 times he threw over 35 times just twice all season in 2001 He didn't need to, if he got the ball at his 28 he would have needed to. Do you understand the difference?
"I have no problem with you being dissapointed in Welker and Brady choking last year or the choke of your entire O in 2007. " And you shouldnt have a problem with it, good for you being such a grown up boy! Yea! oh and I dont have a problem with the Jets fan base insecurity as a result of not being in a SB since when was that? oh yeah when TV was in black and white
I live in the world of fact. And you over-blow the impact Brady had in that game and even on that GW drive. I give credit to who is deserving of it. And that's why I give so much credit to JR Redmond for that drive. w/o Redmond they don't even get to mid-field before time runs out. And that's why I give so much credit to the defense. w/o the defense the Patriots are blown out because the offense did NOTHING all game long. So the plan was to leave a 45 yard FG in the middle of a blizzard for the kicker to bail them out. Okay got it.
No, actually from the stats it looks like that type of throw and catch was never completed in game before between Brady and Welker, so 100 is completely inaccurate. If you read the article, Brady to Welker have only completed ten 20+ yard passes to Welker where the pass was 20 yards in the air such as the throw in the Super Bowl. So Welker and Brady never completed this type of catch and pass in game before. So as the article says, it would be a new thing for Welker and Brady to complete this pass and catch. In fact one of the previous times they tried it, the throw was high making Welker spin and reach high and he dropped it. The same thing happened in the Super Bowl. It was a poor pass followed by a dropped catch. The statistics website never said Welker didn't have to catch it, they are saying Welker and Brady have never completed that type of pass and catch before, thus 90/100 or 99/100 times Welker makes that plays is 100% incorrect statement. Again Brady should have thrown a better pass, Welker should have caught it anyways.
You give credit to everyone bit Brady, the receivers, the K, the defense, it was all just a coincidence to you that NE started winning SBs and became an elite franchise once Brady caqme in. You are the same person that will bash Brady for leading an 80 yd drive to take the lead late in a SB then make an excuse why manning threw an INT w/ the SB on the line. who said it was the plan? but he had them in FG ranger where his K could make the kick, he didnt' settle for a 50+ yarder like peyton against us or a 46 yarder like peyton did w/ vanderjagt against Pitt- both in domes. so now we are looking for that EXACT type of catch? The ball wasn't perfect but it was more than catchable and it should have been caught.
Other than getting OB after an 11 yard catch, what exactly did Redmond do? He had two other catches in that drive for 5 and 8 yards. The biggest play of that drive was Brady hitting Troy brown with a clutch throw over the middle for 23 yards with only :29 left. Brown was also able to get OB.
Yes we are talking for that type of catch because that statement you and the other poster provided was Welker catches that 90/100 times or 99/100 times. So yes we need to look at the exact catch, and when we do we see that Brady and Welker have completed that type of pass and catch in game 0 times, so the statement which I said was not accurate (99/100 or 90/100 times he catches that) is not accurate. It is clear as day that was not a common play. End of the day I already said the ball should have been caught, but it was a poor throw also. If we look back on the facts, it is not a typical catch for Welker 20+ yards down the field, and it is not a typical throw for Brady so combine those 2 and you have an incomplete pass.
he got both hands on the ball and should have made the catch, plays EXACTLY like that don't come up often but if in that situation again I bet he'd make that catch. The throw was not a good one but it wasn't a bad one, it was catchable and should have been caught. every completion Brady has is all b/c of the receivers, every completion Peyton has is all b/c of him and every INT is the fault of his receivers.
No proof of the allegations about the Rams' practice, but hey, you live in a "world of fact." :lol: Nice fail.
