Paolantonio laughs at his own corny jokes, too. What's your point? You think Woody is going to tolerate ANOTHER Non-Playoff season with Rex? I mean...SERIOUSLY? I'm just saying right now that if Hill is going to be counted on as a starter on this offense, then he better be ready to do work....A LOT OF IT 'cause the opposing corners will continously keep doubling Primadonna-man until the Rook proves he can consistently beat them and that's going to happen IN EVERY GAME PLAYED. Now if Braylon was here....at the very least, the Opposing Secondary will be like "oh shit. This could be trouble." But anyway....as I stated earlier : MAY through JUNE(which is what Tanny stated). If by July, Braylon hasn't been signed(or has signed with another team...duh), THEN I'll say that BE isn't coming back.
Hill is very raw and will need at least a full year to become a regular (weekly) contributor IMO. I think he has the chance to be a big time player, but it won't happen out of the chute, because he will be learning a pro offense from scratch. I flyer on Braylon at the right price seems like a decent investment.
You have to let these rookies play and gain experiance ... I.E Torrey Smith of the Ravens got better each game
Yeah, but Torrey Smith worked his ass off to do it. Smith was more ready day 1 to contribute at the NFL level than Hill is, and he still didn't step foot on the field until the Rams game in week 3. After his initial breakout game against the Ram horrid secondary, Smith didn't have more than 3 receptions in a game for a month, and he only had 6 games with more than 3 receptions all year (including the playoffs). He only had 4 receptions in the postseason. I reiterate, he was more NFL ready coming out than Stephen Hill is currently. Doesn't mean Hill can't do well as a rookie, but expecting him to be a reliable #2 opposite Holmes is pretty iffy IMO. Hill can certainly produce in spurts, but to expect any semblance of consistency is highly unlikely, especially early in the year. I still think the idea of bringing Braylon to TC on an incentive laden/non-guaranteed deal would be perfect. If Hill surprises and is ready to roll, braylon gets cut, if he isn't ready, we already have Braylon in the fold, and Hill gets situational reps in games while he fine-tunes his technique. There is never the problem of having too many weapons in an NFL offense. I still want somebody to tell me wtf a defense is going to do with a 3 wr set that has Hill and Braylon outside, Holmes in the slot, Keller lined up off the RT, and Greene in the backfield. The defense has to respect the speed, so the safeties will be off the ball, because you are 3 wide, you take one LB off the field, thus allowing you to have nice big running lanes for Greene. If a safety bites on a PA fake? haha, burn em deep. It would be a nightmare for defenses to figure out how to accurately defend that shit. Than transfer that to inside the 5 yard line, and have Tebow lined up behind Sanchez instead of Greene. Now what the hell are they going to do? Solo up 6'4'' Hill and 6'3'' Edwards on the outside for the fade routes? What about Holmes a red zone threat in his own right? Oops, forgot about Keller, Sanchez favorite red zone target at the moment. Then there is that annoying power back with a knack for the endzone Tim Tebow. You can't tell me there aren't a ridiculous amount of creative opportunities for the jets offensive staff to come up with in regards to those sets. Both running and passing the ball. We all know about Hill and Edwards blocking abilities on the outside.
anything other then a 3-4 win season and rex is back.so far his worst season is 8-8.what team puts their coach on the hot seat after 2 playoff appearances in 3 years and a .500 record as the losing season? don't listen to the media,they think its their job to get coaches fired and why do you think the rookie won't be ready to do work.he's already been working with vinny t.i am sure he's been working with other players as well. it's not out of the question to believe that he can get enough routes down to be effective enough to move a safety back or make a few plays.bringing in bray now would take away some of what he could get done in otsa's.
Hill gives us a deep threat and a punishing blocker.. He's raw as a receiver, yes, but he's going to play because of those 2 things. There's just no place for Braylon on the team, as much as some of us would love to see him back.
What about after otsa's? They could, depending on whether he's healthy at that point or not, bring him in on an incentive-laden 1-year deal, you know. Yeah he could go to another team but really.....the only success(real success) he's had was with Mark Sanchez at QB and him(Braylon) being on the Jets. If he was looking to Re-establish himself in the league, this is where he can go to do so. Unless he gets a 1-year-deal from, say the Packers, and has Aaron Rodgers slinging him the ball all over the place.... Or....*gasp*....goes to the Patriots and has Brady tossing him the rock and Braylon dragging Revis and Cromartie into the Endzone this time.
lol like the Pats need another WR They already have like 40 at this point, Braylon is no use to them I dont think Braylon comes here either He doesnt have much of a market left, maybe Detroit or the rams
You can't just count number of receptions as the sole measure of torrey smiths consistency. Did you factor in how many targets he received? How inconsistent his qb was last year? ... The ravens asked him to run routes at full speed and make the occational big play, much like the jets will ask of hill Also, you have no idea if Braylon is still fast, he's almost 30 and now has knee problems ... I agree that the redzone possibilities would be awesome, but I think the red zone is going to be a strength for this team again, with or without Braylon
No. Braylon isn't a Patriot fit. Spacing & route running are not his strength. He's an outside the numbers vertical threat only.Slants/Comebacks/Posts/go's only.The basketball player type. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's a perfect for the Jets. Only thing is..those aren't hard routes to run..Hill maybe able to do the same thing. He has to come down with acouple deep balls early though.That is key.Defenses must respect him from the get go.
Detroit is a decent fit for him. Opposite CJ and Stafford behind center, I would love to see such offense here. In Detroit, u can put down 1000+ yards for BE as long as he is healthy.
I just heard my bwoy Adam say that the Jets and Bengals are gonna look into pursuing Braylon when he is healthy on 98.7.
No i didn't factor in targets. Flacco and Sanchez are pretty similar QB's, so I would expect their consistency to be similar. The bolded is exactly my point. They simply asked him to make the big play from time to time, and Smith came through for them. I expect Hill can do that as well, but if we want consistent production from our #2, I don't believe Hill can provide that for us at all next year, but even if he can, it definitely won't be doing it early on. Where I expect Braylon can produce at a solid #2 level for the year, and at least be a hold the fort kinda guy for Hill. Braylon is still an infinitely better #2 than Plaxico (outside the redzone) last year, even if he only has 1 leg. If nothing else, bringing him in for injury insurance/redzone possibilities on a minimum deal it would be worth it. Which guy would you rather have as the last active receiver on our roster? Patrick Turner making $600,000, a guy who only blocks when in on offense, and doesn't play ST. Or Braylon Edwards making $800,000, a guy who can block, make plays in the redzone, be a capable injury protection for Holmes/Hill, can be a capable #2 for us if healthy, but won't play ST. I'm taking Braylon for the extra 200k every day.
yea i could see bringing him in in the middle of training camp if hill isnt showing anything. and dont get me wrong.pre draft i was hoping they were going to skip a wr early and bring bray nack.now i just feel they bury too many 2nd-3rd draft picks on the bench and stunt their developement.
We need to weed out some of these receivers dont we have somthing like 10+ receivers on the roster. Why did we resign scotty mcknight wasted roster spot. Holmes, Kurley, Hill, Schillens, Turner, and if we brought back Edwards would be great depth at WR.
the ravens still managed to go 12-4 ... and we need consistant production from holmes before we can expect it from our number 2 also, torrey smith had no OTAs so that def factored into his slow start i agree that it wont hurt to bring braylon in, but i would only look into it after OTAs and mini camp, and im sure he'll have a suitor by then
yes they did. They also traded for Lee Evans, expecting him to be the #2 guy opposite Boldin. That didn't happen, but the plan was to have a #2 guy in place (evans) while Smith develops and adds the deep passing game dimension to the offense. Thats what I would like to see us do as well. Like I said, bringing braylon in for a minimum deal is essentially the same thing as Patrick Turner, payment wise, except Braylon is a much better WR overall. I don't see a single downside to the move supposing Braylon is healthy and its a contract without guarantees prior to the start of the season.
