The reason most teams and QBs don't run the option is that they don't have the QBs that can take the hits. Vick gets injured if you freaking stare at him too intently. Really ? All that huh ? Hmm, seem to recall that Cam Newton had a stupidly good year this year. Guess what they run quite a bit of down in Carolina ? Yep, the Spread Option and the Read Option. Two differences really between Denver and Carolina last year; first: Cam Newton is a better passer than Tebow, second: Chudzinski did a hell of a lot better job designing the offense and Carolina did a great job of stacking it with the right type of players. BTW, do you know one of the major reasons why teams in college and highschool run Option offenses ? This will come as a shock to you, but it's because they often face teams with much greater talent, size, and speed. The Option offense helps to level the playing field as it gives the offense a +1 advantage AT MINIMUM. Often, it can give the offense a 2 player advantage.
@Demosthenes9 If you think the option is a viable NFL offense in the absence of it being run anywhere as more than a gimmick and with the only team to run it as more than a gimmick immediately doing everything they could to get rid of the guy who enabled it, well have at the lunacy. That's all it is.
"only team to run it" ? Newsflash for you, they ran a heck of a lot of Option down in Carolina this past year with a QB you might have heard of, does the name Cam Newton ring a bell ? Nice to see that you apparently can't argue specifics about Option football, but instead, can only come up with bullshit like this. Tell me, just out of curiousity, do you know or understand the fundamental basics of option football, and why it is successful ? Do you know or understand the underlying philosophy of the Spread Option ?
Cam Newton busting a 49 yard TD run on a Read /OPTION play. Oh yeah, and that was in Week 16 of the season. You know, when teams supposedly should have figured out how to stop the Option attack. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d8255f038/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-Record-breaking-Cam You might want to rethink that "only team to run it" comment.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/12/19/2863038/panthers-offense-under-rivera.html Find the word option in this description of the Panther's offense from the hometown Charlotte Observer on Dec 19, 2011. Don't you think they'd have used the word "option" somewhere in this fairly good article on the Panther's offensive turnaround from 2010 to 2011? Don't you think that if the Panthers were running an option offense the article would have mentioned Cam Newton running the option offense? The Panthers ran a vertical attack last year which included Cam Newton carrying the ball on designed plays more often than most QB's do. They didn't run the option as more than a very minor gimmick package in the overall offense. If they had surely the word option would have featured prominently in the article in question as opposed to not being mentioned once...
didnt teblow break a rib or something against NE? They said he could not have played the following week if Denver won.
Dude, it's not a "fairly good article" on the Panther's offense. I mean, I searched and searched and can't find the word SHOTGUN in that article, does that mean the Panther's didn't spend a lot of time in the gun ? I can't find the phrase "I formation". Does that mean they didn't run from the I ? I can't find the phrase "single back set". Does that mean they didn't run single back sets ? I can't find the word "Fullback". Does that mean they didn't have one ? I can't find the words "Tight end". Does that mean that they didn't have those either ? BTW, just for kicks, here's something from ESPN: http://espn.go.com/espn/next2012/st...ina-panthers-qb-cam-newton-next-espn-magazine Or a article from Tampa Bay after they faced the Panthers? Or how about NFL.com ?? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...ebow-prove-spread-option-will-work-in-the-nfl Or, just for kicks, how about the same Charlotte Observer that you grabbed your article from ? Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...rs-to-interview-chudzinski.html#storylink=cpy
Fair point, though I would add that Tebow was injured when he got crushed while standing in the pocket, as opposed to while running down field. I'd go further and argue that Tebow is safer running down field than he is standing in the pocket.
BTW, I have to ask at this point, do you really even understand what the Spread Option or Read Option are and how they work?
Just because teams don't run the option doesn't mean that it can't work. My hunch is that teams want to get the most value out of their players as possible, and part of that is not letting your QB get beat up as much as you can avoid it so he can keep running the offense.
your right, they are NFL QB's that cant read a Defense. Thats why they both got drafted in round 1, and have won playoff games...When was the last tme Buffalo had either? RIGHT...STFU
Oh, yeah, drafting a QB = success! :rofl2: Whatever happened to David Carr, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, and JaMarcus Russell, all QBs drafted in the top ten who never learned how to read defenses, either? :lol: I expect that Mark Sanchez will be added to this list within the next two seasons. As for Tebow, he's proof that HCs should never be given total/major power over personnel decisions. Only somebody as stoooopid and incompetent as Josh McDaniel would trade away Jay Cutler and then draft Tim Tebow in the first round!
Believe it or not but this is not true.. cam had a loaded offense last season and even in college. Tebow had the complete opposite last season.. weak O and good D. Even in college everyone said Cam played as well as Tebow on a far worse team.. yet without Cam and after losing the whole team Auburn beat Florida last year. Everyone raves about Cam's passing last year but his bad D allowed his offense to put up big numbers in games he didn't win. People also ignore all his interceptions for some odd reason. Like Tebow couldn't put up big numbers on a good O and rack up lots of interceptions? If he had done that all people would talk about are the losses and interceptions. Tebow had more wins than Cam in 5 fewer games and with coaches and a team trying to bring him down where they were coddling Cam.
Cam Newton is a far better passer than Tim Tebow. Stop with this delusional shit. Are you the same guy that said Tebow's throwing motion is the same as Favre's?
Put Cam Newton under John Fox and see if he performs as well as Tebow did last year.. you have to be delusional to think he would Cam is a better short passer than Tebow.. but since when is being a short passer more valuable than being a deep passer? Cam LOOKS prettier passing the ball but who gives a crap? It's about effectiveness.. I have seen Tebow make passes to win games Cam has NEVER made. He had plenty of opportunities to win games last season and couldn't do it.. UNTIL he started mimicking the way Tebow plays and passed less and ran more. Tebow trained Cam in college now he's training him in the pros too... Without Tebow there would be no Cam Newton.
Can you post that football outsiders link, I looked everywhere but could not find it, I would like to see it.
profootballfocus.com had him rated as the second best running qb, but 4th worst passing qb, pretty much where I would put him. disclaimer, the article is pretty negative on Sanchez, I didn't write it so don't blame the messenger http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/22/new-york-jets-sanchize-or-tebow-time/ edit: I believe this is wha the previous poster was referring to http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb
Did we probably draft a few players to aid in our Wildcat offense? Yes, it appears that way. But does trying to improve our Wildcat mean Tebow will become the starter and we will run the option exclusively? Not even close.
