The Option Offense...

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  1. Tonetime320

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    Actually my bad I forgot all about Chaz Schilens he's pretty lanky.
     
  2. DRC™

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    Tim Tebow played in Urban Meyer's spread option, which is not the same as the triple option, which is not the same as the spread that Baylor run

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  3. The pieced together option is dead. In other words..teams in early season funk's looking for a quick way to spark an offense is dead.

    But what if a team actually built an option offense complete with specific talent from the ground up? I'm not saying that's exactly what the Jets are doing but with the right personnel, & a more dense playbook with more complex option looks..I'm not so sure it wouldn't work. Especially for a cold weather team with a Rex Ryan defense.
     
  4. MaximusD163

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    Verticl threat? Do you mean Plaxico Burress? He was never a "vertical" threat, but if you mean his height, we have multiple tall receivers in Patrick Turner, Chaz Schillens, and Stephen Hill, so that will not be a problem.
     
  5. Br4d

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    If teams tried to run the option in the NFL they're toast. NFL linebackers and safeties are too big, fast and smart to allow a branching offense that operates behind the line of scrimmage to succeed.
     
  6. strngplyr

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  7. Tonetime320

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    Yeah you're right I meant he was more physical in the air not so much in release off of the line though which I now realize completely defeats the purpose of a reciever being a legit "vertical threat". But the guy could go up for the ball. I really do like Stephen Hill after watching highlights of him and with Plax gone now Patrick Turner can have a bigger year as well atleast depending on if Sanchez is under center.
     
  8. AbdulSalam

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    Loving all the option guys to come in run the Tebow packages. Should be fun to watch and I think Tebow will be very successful throwing the long ball to Hill as well.
     
  9. JET'S_my_name

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    I wouldn't look too deep into it. A lot of college teams run a form of the spread. I do find it interesting though, that's it's usually a big knock on guys, but almost no one mentioned during all this mock draft and draft stuff that RG3 never took an under center snap. Previous years it was a stock killer.
     
  10. tzinc

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    if you look at the plays where they actually ran option in Denver almost every play was a good for positive yardage

    where the DEN offense faltered was in the non-option, very predictable calls lack of imagination

    look at the option Tebow ran under Meyer in Florida they had all kinds of passing

    spread WRs unlike DEN 2 WR sets these sets had 3 4 and even 5 wrs

    all kinds of play action and screens unlike DEN

    that is what the Jets need to run with Tebow
     
  11. klecko73

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    Tebow will be on the field about 20 times a game, but probably not how you think.
    Way I figure it...

    6 punts per game (Jets average last year)
    4 kicks per game (if the Jets use him as holder)
    10 plays per game (at a combo of RB, H-back, TE, QB in goal line/ 2pt conversion scenarios)
     
  12. strngplyr

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    Denver lost yards on nearly every option play against NE after the 2nd quarter in the first game they played through the end of the playoff game. Once you see it once, its not hard to teach players how to stop it.
     
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    The problem is that neither Sanchez nor Tebow can read defenses, pre-snap or post-snap.
     
  14. ILL-AL

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    So does this mean Redskins are going to run the "option"? You know, drafting RGIII and all SMH
     
  15. dcm1602

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    Yes because drafting one guy is the same as adding a OC, QB, WR, HB, and OL who all have significant experience running option offenses.

    The exact same thing.
     
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    But that is how I think. No way it gets to 20 without counting some of those things.
     
  17. Bannon

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    Tebow can, pre-snap. That's how his whole game is geared.

    He's getting better at post-snap. (Which is apparently pretty important. :breakdance:)
     
  18. Demosthenes9

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    The option isn't even close to being dead in the NFL. What you saw last year was Mike McCoy grabbing a handful of option plays and inserting them into Denver's offense.

    With an OC that really knows what they are doing, the Option is extremely difficult to stop, especially when you start getting into the different variations.
     
  19. Br4d

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    No, it's not hard to stop at all. If it was you'd have a bunch of teams running it. Michael Vick would have run it. All the Option QB's that came out of Option offenses in college would have run it instead of being converted to safety, WR or a Pro set.

    Many high school offenses are option based. A fair percentage of college offenses are option based. NO NFL offenses are option based, despite the fact that many players have played nothing but the option since high school and so there are many players who understand the various option systems.

    Why do NO NFL teams run the option? Because it is an offense that depends on the offense being more coherent and faster than the defense. By the time you get to the NFL level that is no longer true. Defenses are fast, coherent and they attack the offense almost as much as the offense attacks them.

    If the Option was an option it would be run. Tim Tebow doesn't change that fact. The fact that the Broncos tried to cobble together an Option offense for Tim Tebow last year just tells you how bad Tim Tebow is at doing the things that an NFL QB has to do to play the position effectively in the NFL. It doesn't mean the Option is suddenly viable. It's not. It just means that Tim Tebow is a sucky QB, and yes, he is.
     
  20. Demosthenes9

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    Think it's nothing but coincidence as more and more college teams are going to "option" systems. That said, I'm hoping that our "Wildcat" will actually be the Spread Option and it certainly won't hurt to have players with option experience.

    That said, the drafted players will work very well with Sanchez also, so you can't really read anything into it. I mean, a 6'5" receiver who runs a 4.3 40 is good to have regardless of what system he came from.
     

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