I agree. Imo it is not enough to say the Jets will get good value in picks for a Revis trade. That in itself is debatable. But what they DO with those picks, given the FO's lousy track record? There is no reason to have confidence the FO will use picks obtained wisely. It's just as likely they waste them on another Gholston or Ducasse.
Ftr, my disagreement with the assessment offered here that CB is not all that important a position or that Revis's value is overstated is not intended as an endorsement of Revis's position were he to hold out again.
Revis earned 25 million last year. He's due to earn 6 million this year. If he holds out on us this year with 2 years left on his contract -- trade him.
Looking really hard at the cap it appears as though Revis might actually be trade-able this year although the conditions would have to be just right to make it happen. The Jets would need to have a solid shot at a superstar in the draft. They'd need to move both Scott and Hunter alongside Revis. They'd probably need to cut Brandon Moore before they finalized the trade. That said, the cap would be even tighter after the deal than it is now and they'd probably also have to rework David Harris and Santonio Holmes to free up some more space this year. The key would probably be getting the deal done first under the cap and then figuring out how to rework guys afterwards. Better politics that way.
He had every right to hold out the first time. If he didn't he wouldn't have been paid what he deserved. If he holds out again, fuck him.
If he is traded it will be if he renews his contract with another team, and will have to let us out of ours.
It's kinda comical condemning the front office for there draft track record for wanting to trade a former draft pick.
I see where your going, and is why I believe it is better to have more picks than give up more picks. All your eggs in 1 basket type of thinking versus diversifying.
If you trade Revis you don't give up any picks That is a straight Revis for the #3 pick deal in fact I'd argue the Vikes should toss in another pick If you trade the farm for the #3 then you keep Revis
I say trade him for a 1st this year, a 1st next year, and a conditional pick depending on Probowl, MVP or Ints. Then say goodby to MEvi$ !!!!!
If we can get a 1st we do it. No questions asked. Hes value is at an all time high, 1 injury and he could lose all value, and just be a huge waste.
Why do people think we can trade Revis again? I thought it was pretty well explained why we can't. Next year is the time for that.
If you look really hard at the numbers he is trade-able. It requires a few other things to happen, but it is doable. The team taking him has to take Scott and Hunter for starters and the Jets have to cut Brandon Moore. All of those things could happen. Then after the fact the Jets will be sitting there with a couple of million in cap space. So they need to restructure Harris and Holmes to get back up to the necessary $8 million or so to function. At that point they're sitting right where they are now against the cap with a few significant changes: 1. Revis, Scott and Hunter are gone in the trade. 2. Brandon Moore is cut. 3. The 2013-2016 caps are bit more encumbered by the restructures. The $8 million in cap space is going to go to the Jets rookies and a $2 million reserve fund. The difference on the field is: CB's are Cromartie and Wilson moving forward. The cap space at CB is right. OL has the 16 pick (DeCastro/Reiff) instead of Moore or Hunter. The Jets are still looking for other OL guy later in the draft. The Jets are still looking for pass rusher, FS and WR later in the draft. The Jets have Trent Richardson to make the G&P work. Would this be a logical thing to do under normal circumstances? Probably pretty shaky. Is Darrelle Revis hinting at his 3rd holdout in 6 years normals circumstances? With a contract that cap strings the Jets moving forward likely resulting? Not really. Brandon Moore is also headed for 32 this year. He's not 28 in his prime any more.
I see the logic in wanting to trade him for his holdouts and general greed.After earning all that money last year, he should honor this year of his contract. It's the right and honerable thing to do. If they traded him because of this, I would understand it. But just don't make the mistake of thinking it would make us better, because it wouldn't. Certainly not right away, and only long term if the picks we got for him panned out.
This isn't happening. The only way Revis is tradeable this season is if the Jets can make the other team take at least part of the prorated bonus cap hit. I don't think that's possible but there was something like that done with the Tebow trade. I think it was a special situation though.
Yes, and I don't know anybody who would want to pay him what he wants. He is great but you can draft a corner in the first round who may not be quite as great but you will only be paying him 400k a year for awhile. I would think most GMs would rather do that.
Well then you are too easily amused and no doubt a Jet FO homer. Just because they traded up and got Revis does not for me mean they get a free pass on all the other moves they have made which are just plain bad. I find Jet FO homers amusing, too, if somewhat pathetic.
Guys, we're in a PASS FIRST league. Cornerbacks are VERY important in this age, and Rex recognizes it. His #1 priority for his defense is shutting down elite QBs. Don't under rate the importance of a shutdown corner. Because of Revis, we can get away with virtually no pass rush and a weak safety tandem yet still finish 5th overall D. If we had pass rush, but weak corners, it would be irrelevant against guys like Tom Brady, because he'd find the open man, quickly. Don't forget the 2010 divisional game, when we barely rushed the passer, but Brady still sat there in the pocket with plenty of time but couldn't find an open man. That's what Revis brings. Revis is one of the most important players on D, and trading him would essentially be Rex Ryan surrendering his defensive philosophy, which ain't gonna happen. Revis stays. When you have someone as good as Revis (one of the best CBs to ever play), you don't trade him. You guys will realize this as soon as you see our 1st round pass rusher (that hopefully pans out)and this year's safety tandem, provided we sign Leonhard or another decent FS. Last year with weak pass rush, we were getting burned a lot in safety coverage. It will be different this year.
Have you watched the last two Superbowls the Patriots have been in (and lost)? Mediocre secondaries, ferocious pass rush. So when Revis starts chirping about his contract for the 3rd time, and thus handicapping our ability to pay other people at more high-impact positions, that's when you start to hear rumblings from fans. This thread is moot as he's untradeable anyway, but he needs to shut the hell up. Rex's philosophy on D is best suited for the talent on the Jets because he is a great defensive football coach. He came here and said okay, I have a great cornerback, now if I build a nice tandem I can get by without any studs in the front 7 because when he got here, there were none. He certainly didn't build his D around Ed Reed when he was with the Ravens. Revis doesn't shut down the QB, he shuts down #1 WRs. And he may be the GOAT. But guess what, Tom Brady and Belichick have beaten us two times in a row because they drafted to get away from Revis. We were/are the biggest challenge to their supremacy in the AFCE and now our best player's contributions to taking over the East has been minimized. Kris Jenkins agrees. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-revis-be-a-leader?module=HP11_headline_stack
