Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets cut Moore during the draft WITHOUT a Richardson trade. We're good for screwing a veteran at least once a year this weekend. And if Revis and his cock-sucking army of bitch agents are already planning on holding this whole team hostage again then we might as well get something for him.
I'm about 90% sure that if this deal is being seriously discussed that Darrelle Revis and his agents are already deep in conversations with the Vikings about what the new deal will look like. BTW, if the Jets are going to deal Revis the time to do it is when they are getting a very dynamic player back in return for him at a time when the fans are unlikely to boo the pick. Whether the fans like a Revis trade or not they're not going to boo Trent Richardson at the podium.
Revis could be a holdout by 2012. He's better at pulling the Black Bart routine (Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles) than any pro player I've ever seen. He's already poised to put the gun to his own neck until the crowd begs him not to shoot that poor man.
I would do that in a heartbeat (if Revis was actually planning on holding out, which I could definitely see). You get Trent at 3, Ingram at 16, and say Randle, Jeffery or Sanu at 47 and then Brandon Taylor in the 3rd and this team has a great haul in the 1st 3 rounds. Also, next years 1st from Minny should be in the top 10 (they are clearly rebuilding and are last in the division) and we could get another top rated prospect... Actually, the only concern is losing Moore and what to do with that situation... Hmm, idk, most likely never going to happen, but if Revis plans on holding out again, I would prefer to get something of high value in return for him than pay him 15 mil a year.
Ha....good analogy! :up: I agree that if the Jets think Revis will hold out, they have to seriously think about moving him. He made a bundle in the first two years of the deal and now he wants to complain that this year's salary isn't super high? I doubt it will happen, and I'm not sure I want it to, but it isn't the craziest idea in the world (assuming it doesn't decimate the cap...which it very well could).
Revis is worth more than that on his own. I am not open to trading a top 2 defensive player in the league for an unknown prospect, particularly a RB. Thats asinine Oh and in addition to that, you trade 2 other contributors for nothing. then you cut one of the things that makes a RB successful, a quality guard. Yup thats a logical deal for the Jets to put together.
No, it's really not. Revis is a CB and no matter how great he may be he can only cover 1 of 5 receivers at a time. The rest of the defense is pretty damn good on its own. The Jets really don't need a big impact defensive player but they need somebody who can put points on the board. If we really want to be a run first team then that player is a RB and Richardson is the best to come along in years. If we had a great QB then maybe we would want a WR, but we don't and we don't. This would be the only deal I could possible imagine worth trading up to do.
You dont trade a possible future Hall of Famer and one of the best players in the game for a RB. I don't care what position he plays, he is elite, you don't trade elite for unknown. Revis has the most impact of any defensive player in this league, and when you need to shut down great QBs to win a SB, Revis is a guy you need. Anyone who wants to trade Revis for anything other than an Elite QB is being ridiculous.
The Jets should so do this deal if they can. It's another shot at Barkley next year plus they'll have 2 1's to potentially trade up for Barkley if somebody like the Colts or Skins winds up on the 1 pick.
Way, way too much to give up. I don't want to come away from this draft with one high pick, a third rounder and a bunch of low picks. So many holes that need to be addressed and running back, while a priority, is down the list of big-time needs...
I read something today... It said that when you want to confuse, fluster or hurt a QBs play, you dont call upon an elite CB, you want an elite passrusher. An elite CB just says “dont throw here”, an elite passrusher says “Im coming for you every single play”. I understand completely that Revis could potentially be the greatest to ever play his position, but in todays NFL when teams go 3 or 4 wide often, his impact is severely lessened. Add in the fact that Revis could very well hold out AGAIN after getting paid once before and he would strap us down cap wise at a position that great defenses do not traditionally build around, and its hard not to see the other side to the argument.
Trade Revis to the Browns for this years first and next years first,accomplishing two things; 1-Getting a RB that seems to have "franchise back" written all over him 2- Sticking it up that selfish prick Revis' ass having to play for the Cleveland Browns Of course this is just my anger speaking since I hate that selfish bastard Mevis with every fiber of my being. Ok, I feel better now, carry on.
has anyone thought that tanny wanted his info on the off chance he drop?. lets say cleveland goes blackmon(not that crazy) tampa goes clairborne maybe tanny knows what jax wants for #7 and it is attainable this scenario is a long shot but not out of the realm of possibility,all it takes is 1 different pick
I still personally don't think that Richardson should go in the top 10. I agree his potential is there, but the NFL is getting away from the running game. Starting with 3 and Minnesota. Who would be willing to jump to 3 to get Richardson? St. Louis, or Tampa, why? Minnesota obviously isnt' taking him. Cleveland needs a top notch WR to help McCoy if they don't go Tannehill, which I highly doubt. I still believe they trade with Miami. If they go WR they can simply sign Benson, or wait till 22 or early 2nd. Tampa Bay has Blount, and they ran the ball the least amount of times last year. They Went out and go Jackson which will give a boost to the run game in itself. They also signed the highest rated guard in free agency, which will also help the run game. IMO, the most logical pick is on the defensive side of the ball since the new HC is defensive minded, and Claiborne seems like a fit. St. Louis also needs a top notch WR to help Bradford. They have Jackson, and he still can get the job done. Why waste a top 6 pick on a player that isn't going to make in immediate impact like 1 of the top 2 WR. Jacksonville - MJD, nuf said Miami - QB, IMO Carolina - How many running backs do they have now? Buffalo, Kansas City, Seattle, Arizona, Dallas, and Philly are all set at RB. That being said, If Richardson does fall outside the top 10 you could see teams make a move up to Arizona if both WR are gone. Perhaps some backwards thinking, but I just can't phathom him going top 10. I understand all the analyst, and the majority on here think he will.
^^He is the best prospect since Peterson and that is why he is the ONLY back thought worthy to go in the first round..you would be right with any other back in any other year.
How did Minnesota fair? How did Tennessee fair? Houston did well until their starting QB went down? Houston also had a back up that made our running game look like shit. laymen's terms - shorten the game. My point is without a passing attack you aren't going anywhere, UNLESS you have a top 5 defense, and a top 5 running game. Of course, you also need to run the ball the majority of the time, and pass intelligently the rest of the time. Cleveland has neither, even with Richardson. Really need some talent for McCoy to get the ball to. If they draft Richardson, the defense takes him out of the game, and you have nothing. St. Louis has neither, even with Richardson. Top 6 pick for a back up for 2 years. Jackson is the type of runner that needs all the reps to get into a rythme. Might as well trade him if they draft Richardson. Tampa Bay has neither, even with Richardson. So many needs, and they waste a pick on a RB. I just don't buy it.
I think you could make a strong case for Richardson in Tampa Bay. Blount is the same kind of back that Shonn Greene is, excellent complimentary back but not the mainstay. The Bucs need to get Josh Freeman back on track this year. Nothing is as important to that franchise as making the Freeman from 2010 the rule instead of the guy who showed up last year. Give him a beast behind him in the backfield. It's the right move.
