WW85's 2012 Jet's Final Mock Draft

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  1. GQMartin

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    ...And the throw during the Colts game in the playoffs. And the throw to Braylon in the Miami game.

    Guess what, there are only a handful of throws like that. Probably less than 10, out of 3 full years of being a starter.

    Thanks.

    So if, by your standards, we are using 1 play to show what Mark can and can't do, let's go back to the play against the Titans when Mark scrambled, took contact on the goalline, outstretched his hands and scored a TD. Sounds like a Tebow play....

    Mark Sanchez = Tebow in your book.
     
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  2. 101GangGreen101

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    Ok how about Holmes TD in the AFCCG? Or the pass to Braylon in the Texans game? We can go on and on he's completed deep passes

    Sanchez made some deep throws to Cotchery too on several occasions

    He's got the ability but the FO and OC did a bad job of trying to open up the passing game

    Give him the right weapons you'll eat those words

    Tebow is nothing like Mark. Tebow may be the better FOOTBALL player but its not even close when it comes to the QB position
     
  3. wewantsapp

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    I'd love it if the first 3 picks end up that way.
    Need and value finally line up for us with the proper players.
    IMO, I would be shocked if Ingram is there @ 16.
    No problem with Sanu in the 2nd and I was working on a mock to get Taylor in the 3rd.
    And I agree -- Taylor is not a Landry type safety -- but you're right in that he was quietly the best player in that secondary.
     
  4. WW85

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    I'll post it later.
     
  5. laxin

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    Obviously you havent heard/seen Sparano talk about the type of offense he wants to run here- he wants LARGE chunk plays. He doesn’t want some dink and dunk shitty offense that has been fatal to this team. If you watched Miami’s offense, it was clear that Sparano likes big plays down field and taking shots down field. He’s made it clear that this is one area that will be significantly changed from last year.

    He even ran a run and gun offense in college, so yeah, I would say that this offense is going to be passing more down field with less dink and dunk shit plays.

    And yes, Sanchez does have the arm strength and downfield passing ability. He did it in his first 2 years very well because he had time (Offensive Line) for a deep passing pattern to develop and a WR that could stretch the field (Braylon). In college he bombed passes downfield with ease and accuracy.

    Schotty obviously has tainted your mind.
     
  6. laxin

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    More so asking if you are expecting Taylor to be able to start at either safety position day 1, or maybe platooning with Smith...?
     
  7. JohnnyThaJet

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    I wouldn't be disappointed with this draft in the slightest.

    I am not the biggest Ingram fan, he concerns me a lot but at 16 he is a fine choice. Answering our pass rush in the 1st round has become ideal, if no high caliber player falls to us (Floyd, DeCastro, Richardson, Reiff, etc). I think it will take time for Ingram to adjust to our scheme and I couldnt even see him playing some ILB this year with how well he blitzes the middle.

    Sanu is one of my favorite prospects in this draft, as you know. Taking a hometown guy who has also excelled against good competition is what we need at WR, besides Jeffery, hes the perfect WR for us in the second. Quick question while I'm thinking about it, lets say Sanu and Tru Johnson are there at 47, who do you think the Jets draft? Its a tough one for me.

    Taylors stock is rising for sure, I still think he should go later in the third, if not 4th but with a need at Safety and no guarantee's in the 4th, I could see us giving him a shot. Rex was quoted as saying these LSU prospects are all pro ready. Taylor and Landry could be a great tandem, not sure how well coverage will be but anything is an upgrade from last season.

    Turbin I am very up and down on. Watching him on tape he looked great but against better competition he seemed a bit iffy. I think he can be a third down guy for us but needs more polishing. Although, the 4th round is were you take those kind of guys so I like that trade up.

    Adams excites me. His situation reminds me of how the Jets went after Slauson. They seemed to like him and saw a future starter if not superb backup in him, we can only hope they see the same in Adams. His low level of competition is worrisome and thats why I think he goes lower than you projected but with a trade I can see why you took him with one of the 7th rounders.

    Rodriguez is a good utility guy, he can do it all, run, catch, block, etc. He's a nice addition to our team. He reminds me a lot of James Casey in size and style of play.

    Joe Long I havent seen much of, I have heard of him because of his brother but need to look more into him. I see why you selected him though.

    Its actually Jose Gumbs*. I'm glad some Monmouth guys are getting some recognition! Ive watched Gumbs a lot and he just looks like an NFL player. He had a great pro day running a 4.44 40 , 41 inch vertical, and 20 reps of 225. His play on special teams and on the field were astounding and he stood out every single game. I remember when I first visited Monmouth to attend and I watched their game against Wagner, I saw him bring back an INT for a TD, from then on I always looked for him on the field. He can play either Safety or CB.
     
  8. Br4d

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    I think the only way that the FS/SS dichotomy goes away is if it becomes the norm to put more than 2 TE's on the field thereby eliminating the weakside/strongside dichotomy as well.

    The strong safety isn't just set where he is to cover the tight end. He's put there, closer to the box, to rebalance the field for the defense against the tight end who is extra power in the run game on that side of the field.

    The free safety isn't set back in center field with no primary coverage responsibilities as a pure safety outlet. He's also set back there to watch the quarterback. He's effectively the guy "covering" the QB in the pass defense or more accurately covering his eyes as they sweep the field. He calls the signals in the defensive backfield because he has the best point of view of the entire offensive formation, stationed in the deep center-right most of the time.

    If 2 TE's becomes the norm then teams are going to have to find 3 safeties, not a 2nd cornerback or nickelback. They're going to need 2 strong safeties, one to cover each tight end, and a free safety to watch the QB. If teams give up the split end for the second tight end then it's 1 CB and 2 strong safeties that are needed. If teams give up the fullback instead then it's 2 CB's and 2 strong safeties. If they go empty backfield with a slot receiver then it's 3 CB's and 2 strong safeties.
     
  9. HardHitta

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    Good draft but I honestly don't see Ingram there at #16.
     
  10. Lon Chaney

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    I don't want anything to do with Ingram.
     
  11. wildaces

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    What players of interest would be there at 16?
     
  12. BrowningNagle

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    I like this mock WW.

    I'd rather Jeffrey than Sanu in the 2nd round but either would be fine. I love the Taylor pick in the 3rd round, he's going to be an excellent player I think.

    I would prefer more of an emphasis on OL but If Ingram is there at 16 you take him. I don't really think he will be though.

    My mock:

    Rd 1: DeCastro / Cordy Glenn
    Rd 2: Alshon Jeffrey / Sanu
    Rd 3. Brandon Taylor


    (I dont really know much about the later round players or if its possible to land these guys but some players I'd have my eye on would be Tank Carder, T.Y. Hilton, Malik Jackson from UT, and Massaquoi)
     
  13. WW85

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    Appreciate the comments.

    From everything I'm hearing Melvin Ingram's stock has dropped slightly. He was overrated at # 7-8 area. Jacksonville has quite a few rumors circulating they like Gilmore and I really don't see another team drafting Ingram after Jax.

    IMO, Right Now, there is a better than 50% chance Ingram will be the pick

    Rd 2 makes the perfect spot to get that big Physical receiver. I believe at least Sanu or Jeffery will be available. I think there's a better chance Sanu falls to #47. More rumors are spreading the Jets realy like Sanu and he wants to be a Jet.

    Rd 3 Brandon Taylor or George Iloka would be solid choices.
     
  14. BamaZeus

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    I could definitely live with that as our first 3 picks. I worry a bit about Jeffery's motor, but the physical skills are definitely there.
     
  15. RutgersJET

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    I'm glad the Jets are as much into Sanu as I am. Hopefully he turns out to be just as good a WR from Rutgers as Kenny Britt is, minus the injuries
     

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