Carkner got a fighting major, ten minutes for being the instigator and a game misconduct. When was the last time you heard of supplementary discipline for that? I know Carkner has a hearing today along with Hagelin but I'll be pissed if he gets anything other than a fine. Why wasn't it a fight? Why does Boyle rabbit punch a guy seven inches shorter and 80 pounds lighter than him, then refuse to even put up his hands when an actual fighter gets after him? Is he that much of a pussy? So far the Rangers have gone after our stars and the Senators have exacted revenge on your tough guys. Time for the Rangers to man up.
bwahahhahaa dude....man up? I f Carkner was a man, he would have fought Boyle ( Boyule is the worst, gayest fighter in teh league by the way)...thats how a "man" exacts his revenge...not by attacking the guy and continuing to punch him after hes down. That was one of the biggest ussy moves all year. You cant be serious.....
How is it possible to tell someone they don't understand hockey and then say this shit. Why wasn't it a fight? Because in order for it to be a fight both guys need to know what's going on. checking a guy and then immediately beginning to punch him in the face isn't how fights are done in hockey. Hit him, say something or tap him with the stick to let him know it's on and then you both drop the gloves and go at it. If you are going to pull the hit Carkner did then at least stop being a colossal dick after you have he guy on the ground but he was still gong to town like Edward Norton in fight club. You were pissec and waiting for revenge after game one. The same thing s coming the Sens way now. They managed to play the part of a thought team for a few hours, let's see if they are prepared to play another 5 games like that.
It was fairly cheap from Carkner, but Boyle knew it was coming - Konopka told him in the warm up that they were coming for him - and he didn't even bother to defend himself. Then he tried to save face by throwing down with Neil, and immediately fell over when Neil threw a punch at him. If Boyle's not a good fighter, then what was he doing punching Karlsson in the back of the head in game 1? He reaped what he sowed. In fairness to him I thought he was one of the Rangers' best players last night, but if you're going to pull cheap moves you're going to get them back in spades.
Again, you misunderstand me. I know why it wasn't a fight, I'm asking why Boyle didn't make it one. He knew it was coming, he chose not to participate.
I really don't have a problem with anything that happened last night. If you take cheap shots, you're going to get cheapshotted back. That's how hockey works. The refs did the right thing kicking Carkner out, and that should be the end of it.
Where was the option? There was 2 minutes gone in the game so if he actually had time to decline a fight, which I didn't see happen, then go at him next shift. The fight was unavoidable but I think the way it was done was bush league but now the Rangers have something to get riled up abut for game 3. We'll see if the Sens are prepared to keep escalating the physicality of this series.
If that's all they did it was fine. Throwing Dubi out for being a third man in when only one guy is throwing punches was dumb shit. I know jonnyd thinks it made the Rangers better but lets be real.
hahah, yeah Id rather have a full team Kenny. But to take Dubi off the ice for a Dman on the other team is an absolute no brainer trade that you would take every time. Every time! But we had no forecheck last night and didnt make the Sens pay. They played with 5 dmen the whole fuckin game. That is a HUGE advantage for the Rangers.
Yeah, that was a mistake on the Sens' part that we got away with. There's no doubt that Carkner was sent out with the express intention of destroying Boyle; given that gave him a good chance of being thrown out, and at the very least guaranteed a lengthy penalty, I would have been much happier seeing a seventh blueliner dressed.
I don't think they'll need to; they've made their point, and it doesn't do the Rangers any good to get drawn into an escalation of the physical battle, because man for man your team is probably better than our which means that matching penalties probably help us. I'm not convinced that Carkner will even dress for tomorrow's game. They'll need to protect Hagelin next time he plays, though; Sens are still pissed that your boy Shanahan didn't punish Wolski for concussing Alfie, no way they put up with your team doing it a second time. I don't think we'll see a repeat of last night though, I think we'll see a really good, physical hockey game with both teams attempting to dominate physically but legally and both attempting to assert their style on the game. This should be a great series now, turning it into a war doesn't really help either team. Both will believe that their natural game is good enough to win it.
Hes another scary thing fellas. The only way I thought the Sens could beat the Rangers was by playing an end to end up and down style. They didnt beat us last night with a transition game. They just pounded our zone and controled the puck that way. They werent supposed to beat us that way. That being said, I still think we'll win but I was certainly disheartened a bit last night. Again, not because we lost a game but how we lost it. I have to watch the game tomorrow night in Cleveland. Ugg. Gotta find a bar somewhere. Kenny, I planned a biz trip to Cleveland conveniently when Springsteen was playin there . Im a little obsessed
You think that's bad, I've got to watch it in Toronto. There'll be more people there cheering for the Rangers than in New York.
By escalation I meant that the Rangers would escalate it legally. Th ey were great at that all year. I believe they led the league in hits but weren't a man down all that often. I give the Sens credit for stepping up and playing physical for the entire game because I didn't think they would last. If they want to try to go back toward their more natural offensive style I think they are in huge trouble. The Rangers will continue to hit and it will only be worse of the Sens aren't protecting guys again.
Haha you should meet my dad. He texts me on tuesday last week to know if I would drive to Buffalo with him to go to the show there Friday. I would have too if I didn't have plans already. He did that to me a few days before they ended the last tour in Buffalo so we saw the last show with Clarence by driving to that hell hole.
You won't see the same Sens as you did in game 1; there were a lot of young players in their first ever playoff game, and it showed. They were overawed by the venue and the occasion. The Sens have been and are a physical side, I keep telling you this. They're a big team and they're not afraid to use it. I just think that both sides have now taken liberties, and both have been punished for it. Other than the Hagelin elbow there's nothing outstanding unless the Rangers want to go after Carkner, and that would be stupid. We'll happily trade him for pretty much anyone on the Rangers team. The question is not whether Ottawa can play a physical game, it's whether they can do it in such a way as to open up the ice for their offensive game. It will be interesting to see what the Rangers do if Ottawa can open up a lead, because if they start chasing the game that's where our natural offense could get the opportunity to open up. I'm not convinced that the Rangers will be dominated again quite as much as they were last night.
The only times the Rangers didn't carry the play last night were when they took stupid penalties, and in the 3rd when they got the lead and played the prevent style that Mike fucktard Sullivan teaches them. He actually tells them NOT to control the puck in those situations, just flail your stick around to get a deflection or smack it off the boards and out. Tortorella's biggest flaw as a coach is listening to that moron next to him when it comes to defense. Last night they just got careless with the penalties, unfortunately. That's what killed them when they were carrying the play. Then they came out and dominated the beginning of the third, got a lead, and went into their shell. Last night could be a blessing in disguise for the rest of the postseason, if it can get them to stop doing that after doing it all year.
Carkner had his hearing on the phone at noon, Hagelin had his at 1:30. No decision on either as yet. Alfredsson flew home with the team last night and is apparently feeling good, but no decision yet as to whether he plays tomorrow. Hagelin has said it was an accident; I don't believe that, but I don't think he set out to hurt Alfie.
