My hunch is that those are longshot scenarios that mainly revolve around Tebow being a much better QB than he has shown so far. I don't think Rex and Tannenbaum survive a Sanchez wipe out. I think they're both trying to create an escape hatch with Tebow but they'd have been better off doubling down on Sanchez. That was the route that proved they were right. The Tebow route is likely to be a dead end and it will just make both of them wrong twice.
Good points all but let me turn it around and play devil's advocate. Why stop with the Jets' "sloppy talent management" and also take a look at their "acquisition management" as well? They draft a kid surrounded with talent and with only 16 college starts to his resume'. So we've spent 3 years developing this guy and I'm not sure anyone within the franchise is holding him solely accountable for the losses, but nor should they be content with his performance at the tail end of our 8-8 season. His protection was lacking last year, no question. Now, of course we went hell-bent for the SB. We'd all be pissed if we didn't, so that should be a given no matter who you draft or acquire. This is the NFL, so welcome to it Mr. Sanchez and if you're the starter, we need to see signs after 3 years, you're capable of taking us there. I don't see the Tebow acquisition as the huge controversy that many others do. For what we gave up, this guy is a much more capable B/U than we had. That and what his athleticism brings to the table was worth the price we paid, IMO. As far as Mark not being able to deal with Tebow in town, again, that's the NFL. I say if Tebow, who is only turning 25 this August, can develop and show he's the better QB, then maybe we will hae spent 4+ years developing somebody else's QB, but if that's the case, maybe we get someting of value in return (if it comes to that). I do realize this is somewhat of a sideshow, but at this point let it all sort out and we'll see where it takes us. None of us should be concerned with the sideshow aspects. That's for teh players to sort out and that's why they get all those dollars. Our concern should be fielding the best team we can, and if that means that Tebow gets the job (if he looks like a better QB than Sanchez), then I'm all for it.
This is the Jets. When they go out of the box really bad things happen and they always have. If we had a fresh management team in here trying to think outside the box it would be different. This management team has already gone WAY outside the box with all the tradeups since 2001. They've gone way out of the box by hiring people who were questionable to coach the team (Herm from DB's coach to head coach, Mangini from Belichik's proxy as DC to head coach, Rex from All-world DC to HC who can't keep his mouth shut.) They went out of the box by hiring a young OC alongside that young DC to essentially derail the Jet's offense for 6 seasons by trying to do things nobody had ever tried before. The credibility that the Jets have to go out of the box is gone. What we've gotten out of the previous attempts is a burst of enthusiasm followed by an inevitable decline as the Jets learned (hopefully) that the box is there for a reason.
I concur 100% all along it seemed they were trying to catch that lightening in a bottle moment. The sad part is, there has been a playoff win or 2 along the way that got the faithful thinking that the Jets have turned the corner. Edwards had better than average success, Mangini had a good run and surely Ryan will be the greatest Jets head coach of all time since he took the team to back to back AFC title games. All the while, the Giants across town are sitting there with ownership and a management staff with working blue print that has brought them 4 friggin Super Bowls already in my lifetime!!
Not for nothing but to truly be inside the box you need to get your hands on a certified top 5-7 QB... something that doesn't exactly grow on trees. Further the Jets at least made the attempt to do so by going after Sanchez (only teams with tall receveirs let their drafted top QB walk). You could consider this very inside the box thinking even if it took a trade up to make it happen. Further still this offseason is a very funny place the Jets find themselves in... it says a lot to the Jets credit in fact that expectations are so high that when the team goes 8-8 and has a bit of internal friction that suddenly the perception is that the sky is falling and the outcries of weeping women and children should cause the Jets to drive the proverbial dagger of mercy through its fans hearts to just get it over with. This is still a team that is loaded with talent and has a very good head coach. Once the offseason hysteria dies down and the season begins people will be reminded that things aren't nearly so dire here on the green side of New York. This isn't exactly Kotite's Jets.
there reasoning for moving up in the draft to take Sanchez was outside the box thinking. They knew he was unproven. They are on record saying that the wanted a new exciting face for the franchise. Again, more about ticket sales than actual football. If football was the focus of the organization, Kellen Clemens could've held the fort until we were in a better place to select that face of the franchise who was also a blue chip prospect. But they went outside the box.
This is an excellent post and a very compelling "out of the box" argument. There is no question the Jets have gone outside the box on many, many occasions. But I don't see Tebow as an outside the box decision. It's perfectly within the box to trade for an athlete such as him if you think it can help your team. How many times last year did we cringe at the sight of Sanchez being mauled and blasted? Every one of those hits might possibly have taken him out of the game. I for one feel a little better now, that at least we have a legit backup who has unbelievable 24-year old physical talent and who has actually led a team to the POs! Why are we fighting this and why is this so out of the box? It's smart! What were we supposed to do, pass on the deal because Mark might be upset? But you are right about all the other out of the box decisions. I will go right back to ticket sales on that. Woody is a little rich boy with an official NFL toy to play with, only it is a source of embarrassment now. If the little boy can't win with his NFL toy, he can at least show the world that this little rich boy can make money with it. But he can't even do that. Bring in Tim Tebow. Maybe that works. It's working so far. He's at least stopped the slide on the upper deck exit. So this out of the box decision maybe isn't so out of the box if you're Woody and you're trying to show that you know shit from shinola about owning an NFL franchise.
BTW... while I'm on the subject of top 5 draft picks named Mark Sanchez. Has anyone else seen the NFL.com article by Jason Smith rating the top 32 QB in the league? Well Sanchez checks in at # 23. Right after notable #21 (NFL) QB RGIII and #22 Jake Locker.
You mean you think the Jets should willingly choose to remain average until some golden prince comes along to save the day? That attitude is why many teams in the NFL have never even been to a Super Bowl yet much less won one. The Jets may not have succeeded in winning theirs since Parcells took over but you certainly can't criticize the effort.
Thank you. Someone else who knows WTF is going on around here. All of this for the past 8 years has been about putting asses in seats. Unfortunately, I'm one of the asses.
I'm not saying that the Jets ought to make an effort to try and remain average. I'm saying that despite all their efforts to the contrary, they are still just average.
I disagree wholeheartedly. The Jets have a lot of potential... hate that word but it is there. The talent exists... the coaching staff is in place, bolstered by Schottenheimer being gone... Rex needs to figure out how to get it all out... if he can do that this team can win a Super Bowl.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-heading-into-2012?module=HP11_content_stream Jason Smith - Fantasy Analyst
no, he only mentioned Tebow in saying that he believes that Sanchez will beat him out for week 1. He was only rating the starters, so, no Tebow. Eli is top dog, because he beat out Brady for 2 SB in the past 5 years.
It's all about selling tickets. Would the Jets like to win a Super Bowl? Of course they would. If they can do that in a big splashy way then they'll win a Super Bowl. But if they have to actually do some heavy legwork that is hard to promote and that heavy legwork is incompatible with making a big splash? No way. They won't do that to try to win a Super Bowl. The Jets just do not understand how an extremely competent NFL franchise, one that is actually going to be in the running for a Super Bowl many seasons, operates. If they understood this they would never have made the trade-up for Mark Sanchez because it was going to take years to develop him given his lack of actual playing time since high school. They wouldn't have gotten the cap situation so bloated during that window that Sanchez peak years were likely to be with less help than needed. They wouldn't have traded up over and over again over the years, leaving depth as a constant issue and causing injury related collapses several times. They wouldn't have locked the cap into an unforgiving state by paying their cornerbacks like they were playmakers in the trenches. They wouldn't have allowed the head coach to become the center of attention the way Rex has, particularly given some of the soap operas he has participated in. I actually really like Rex a lot. I probably like him more than any Jet head coach since Walt Michaels. I wish I had the confidence that he wasn't going to blow up some day soon and cause the franchise grief. I really wish he had developed as a head coach as much as he has developed as a promoter of the team over the last two years. The Jets aren't a laughingstock but they always threaten to become that and have since Woody bought the team. It all started with "I resign as HC of the NY Jets" on a post-it note at a press conference. It's all devolved from there. Poor planning, lack of foresight, a sense that the team has no concrete long-term plan and instead substitutes a series of hastily planned maneuvers for that. What's the plan? What are the Jets good at? Where's the core? In the defensive backfield? Please, no team in history has won anything with that. That's not out-of-the-box, that's jack-in-the-box. The Jets need to put jack back in and get a plan. because it is getting really old watching this team go up and down like a yo-yo with false starts followed by collapses.
He’s a fantasy football writer. Sanchez will get redzone opportunities taken away by Tebow, therefore lessening his value.
14,000 posts later im shocked that you wouldnt know that jets ticket sales isnt a problem. Clear stupidity....
