It's at least somewhat about going forward, what their plans are, and whether he fits in them. On the face of it Keller doesn't seem a good match for a team emphasizing the running game. You'd be better off with someone who could maybe not catch quite as well but block much better. A player like that would surprise the D more easily if he goes out on a play action or some other play that looks like a run play. Right now, if it's a run play and Keller's in there, he's a detriment.
Lots i don't like about Keller. Size, blocking and that we moved up to pick him in the first round. He is productive and we drafted him. We should keep him if we can.
Wow. So when the Jets ground game was ranked #1, I guess Keller was fine, but the moment that same ground game ranked in the middle, Keller becomes a bad fit? He wasn't a bad fit when LT and a rookie Shonn Greene were ranked 1st. I understand his blocking is a concern, but he lines up at WR spot so often, he's almost a hybrid version of TE/WR. As for blocking TEs, Hartsock and Mulligan didn't seem to work out. Maybe blocking TEs that can catch don't grow on trees? Keller catches really well but can't block as good, yet he surprises D every now and then. Whats wrong with surprising the D that way? Whats wrong with having Keller as a the receiving TE and another rookie as the blocking TE? You claim he's inconsistent. I say no he isn't. He disappears for a few games, but that can be pinpointed at the game plan and our All-world ex-OC Schotty. Keller put up 800+ yards while being "inconsistent". If the game plan is better, maybe Keller can put up 1k+ yards? I wouldn't mind having TE with 1k+ yards that is below average at blocking.
I agree with you here. I'm assuming Smith (aussie aussie aussie) was brought in to be our blocking TE. Also Cumberland is coming off IR. He was developing into a very good all-around TE before he was hurt. Considering the rest of the TE unit in that regard, I don't mind keeping Keller as a receiving TE. He is very surehanded and reliable which is an advantage in a run offense because it gives Sanchez a reliable short yardage and play action target. So as a whole I don't think he is a bad fit for the system, he would just be a better fit if he improved his blocking. So I'm for giving him an extension. I would rather keep the players we drafted and developed.
Good, Sanchez needs targets he is familiar with and I think that Keller is Sanchez's favorite target. I know Keller tends to disappear and some points during the season but he still gives the Jets production. The Jets need him back after this season.
I love the nonsense that every problem with Jet offensive players was Schotty's fault. I just have to disagree there. As for the success of the running game, that was more because the OL was better and LT was two years younger. Remember how well he did at first? That is not what we have in front of us now. Keller is inconsistent. Denying that fact undercuts your cred.
I've got the perfect solution for you Big Blocker. It's going to work great for you. Go start rooting for the Cleveland Browns. Get them to hire back Eric Mangini, who is a huge proponent of this system. It's so smart he traded away Vilma so that we can have these Bart Scott/Pace/Thomas perennial nightmares instead of having a rock solid MLB crew and being faced with the much easier task of dumping one underachiever to be replaced with an effective starter coupled with Maybin on the other aside on passing downs beginning last year. I think you'd be much happier if you were a Browns/Mangini fan. I'd certainly be.
Between the 20 wildcat plays we're gonna run, plus the normal running game, why spend 5 million on a TE who might see a few balls a game and cant block worth a shit? Makes no sense. Let him walk.
This. With Tebow all we need is a John Carlson type player. Costs little, can block and occasionally catch.
John Carlson got 5 mil a year for 5 years while missing last year... I would think Keller would ask for more than that.
Not entirely true, you have tight ends that aren't a threat people know your running, or don't fear that receiver. Whenever Keller is in there, even on a running play, the defense is forced to play that there may be a pass and defend accordingly, especially when that TE is your QB's favorite target. Also since the Jets historically run up the middle than towards the ends, the blocking ability of the TE doesn't factor in as much.
Good news. I was not interested in losing Keller at all. And the trade talk was something I never supported.
I'm pretty sure that letting him walk is the last thing we want him to do right now. We either keep him and extend him, or we trade him. That could occur either this year or after he gets extended. But why the heck would you let a young $5-7M/yr commodity walk out the door with nothing to show for it? This is just ludicrous.
I don't like the guy either, don't get me wrong. He plays lazy and uninterested and doesn't work to do the little things for the team. Just himself. But he's good at what he does. And he's not without significant value in one form or another. You don't just let a guy like that go for nothing unless you absolutely have to cap wise. We don't.
Reading comprehension goes with tiredness I guess. Certainly wouldn't say getting a trade for Keller is Ludicrous. I'm not exactly dying to see him go either though so I don't really know what all the fuss is about to be honest.
if he can be re-signed for a reasonable sum then we absolutely should do it so that the only FA we will be pushing to re-sign next season will be Greene (and to a lesser extent Devito and Moore) and we can concentrate on what else is available.
if the jets signed him to a 5 to 7 million contract a year, he would be untradeable. keller is not worth that type dough but with the jets, perhaps you are right. linebackers getting 8 million a year pace, scott and a #2 reciever getting 9 million a year, why not a over hyped shit blocking oneway tightend? hell, they're even locked in to paying a 1/3 bottom tier qb 10 million a year for 2 more years and he'll likely not even be the starter before the next season is over!
