Casserly and Lombardi on the same page

Discussion in 'Draft' started by gsulli5861, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. gsulli5861

    gsulli5861 New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    717
    Likes Received:
    0
    They don't see a position for Upshaw.
     
  2. hazmat

    hazmat New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    3,227
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't get it. The guy plays 3-4 OLB in the SEC. He dominates in the national championship game. He has incredible short area quickness. He can pass rush and he can set the edge against the run. Can he learn to drop back into zone every once in a while? I'm sure. Do the best 3-4 OLB's really have any business dropping into coverage? Do Ware, Woodley, Harrison, Orakpo every really cover anyone?
     
  3. VanderbiltJets

    VanderbiltJets Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    3,091
    Likes Received:
    23
    Gotta love the months leading up to the Draft.
     
  4. cantwait57

    cantwait57 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    8
    Seriously, wtf. This stuff just drives you crazy.
     
  5. HardHitta

    HardHitta Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,174
    Likes Received:
    234
    I agree with you man, I think Upshaw will be a really good OLB.

    He's good at everything. Coverage, Tackler, Pass Rusher, He's a + player as a 34 OLB.
     
  6. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,382
    Likes Received:
    9,331
    This 100%. The months leading up to the draft truly are absurd sometimes.

    Upshaw doesn't have a position...rofl.
     
  7. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,974
    Likes Received:
    5,384
    It's Lombardi. 'Nuff said.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Well this is getting scary. It was in 2008 when Casserly and about 20 GMs thought there was no way Gholsten should be drafted any higher then the tail end of the 1st round and we all know what the Jets did. Rex seemed to say the Jets love Upshaw now. I hope this doesn't end up like that did.
     
  9. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,202
    Likes Received:
    1,873
    If it does I'd fire every last scout on this team.

    This is the most pivitol draft, IMO, in years for this ball club. This draft, with the amount of picks we have, is going to set the stage for this team for the next 5 yrs.
     
  10. hazmat

    hazmat New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    3,227
    Likes Received:
    0
    Realistically the Jets only have 3 picks that should be expected to heavily influence the next 5 years. The other 7 picks are 5th, 6th and 7th rounders. Ideally you find a few hidden gems but it's not like the jets have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds.
     
  11. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2009
    Messages:
    8,906
    Likes Received:
    41
    I kind of agree with them. I think he has already reached 90% of his upside. He will find a place as a 34 OLB but he'll be an average to slightly above average one and nothing more.

    Unless I'm wrong of course
     
  12. cantwait57

    cantwait57 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    8
  13. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,974
    Likes Received:
    5,384
    /ciminidarksiderfiller
     
  14. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    7,002
    Likes Received:
    3,001
    ^^ I listened to ESPN first draft as they were discussing the Jets in the last podcast and it soon became clear to me that kiper/mcshay know next to nothing about the Jets.

    One of them (I think Kiper) was trying to argue that if Manning had come to the Jets then the Jets would still have sucked as the Jets team has less talent on it than the Colts - I mean seriously wtf.
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2007
    Messages:
    23,098
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    That's not knowing nothing, that is just typical Jet hate from anybody associated with ESPN..or anybody associated with the media really.
     
  16. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    Messages:
    5,726
    Likes Received:
    3,887
    Two guys that have been fired at least twice. Especially Lombardi I pay no attention to him on any football matters.
     
  17. gsulli5861

    gsulli5861 New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    717
    Likes Received:
    0
    Listened again to Casserly and Lombardi and both said Upshaw is a really good football player. There concerns are that he is short and could get engulfed by the tackle. They also said he likely won't be good in space. I could see him getting engulfed by the tackle but I don't see him spending alot ot time playing in space. We want this guy heading straight for the QB. Everywhere you look he'd headed to the Jet's, we'll see.
     
  18. hazmat

    hazmat New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    3,227
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't think he will get engulfed by tackles but like most pass rushers he probably won't be dropping into coverage. Which 34 linebackers can really cover anyone?
     
  19. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    292
    It's kind of like saying "I'm scared this passrusher isn't going to be able to rush the pass" "Oh by the way, if he actually can't be an effective passrusher then I really don't see a big future for him at Quarterback."

    DUHHHHHHHHHH.
     
  20. cantwait57

    cantwait57 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    8
    With how solid our coverage on the outside can be, we'd be in good position if Upshaw can average into a 10 sacks a season guy.
     

Share This Page