One thing I didn't notice my first skim through, no TE's With all our comp picks, and desperate need for REAL tight ends, that's something your draft really needs
Totally disagree. Martin is losing stock, he is looking less and less likely to become a true LT, and when it comes down to who would be a better fit at RT its clearly Adams over Martin, especially for Sparanos blocking scheme. I agree he is an ass. He has shown bad attitude and has been unimpressive. But he has all the ability in the world to actually make an impact in the NFL, he just doesnt have the head for it right now. He is worth taking a risk on, worst case scenario we just cut him. Low risk/High reward. I wanted to put Kuechly somewhere like KC, Buffalo, or Seattle but they have bigger needs and players of value/need are still available for them . The Titans biggest issue was Oline last year, they gave CJ2K a huge contract and cant afford to not have that line fixed again. There center was one of the worst in the NFL so they needed to get the best one available in this draft. It would be hard for them to skip those guys but it makes sense why they did.
I knew I would get one of these comments, and It makes sense to point out. I just dont believe any rookie can really come in and dominate as a run blocker like we need. There are still players available at #2 TE for us in FA and I think we will address that after the draft. (Look for guys like Shiancoe, Bo Scaife, Donald Lee, and Leonard Pope to be signed as a blocking TE)
Lot of these guys are either old or expensive. Unless Fasano gets cut (highly doubtful at this point) FA doesn't seem like anyone id get excited over. Draft wise I think George Bryan is an absolutely perfect fit for us. 5th round or later, we gotta be all over this guy.
None are going to be expensive. My favorite on that list is Pope who is a great blocker, is on the younger side (28), and frankly is massive at 6'8 265. I know about Bryan and like him a lot but I think we need a vet right now to command what we really want to do. I just dont see a rookie coming in and being as effective as we need him to be as our #1 blocking TE.
JTJ, I like the gutsy pick Floyd to the Phins, but it might be hard for them to pass up Reiff or reach for Tannehill. I want Tannehill to go before the Jet's pick. I can see Floyd possibly falling to the the Jets, not many teams ahead of the Jets value a WR as their #1 need. I don't see the Eagles taking Kuechly and Seattle could be a prime target for him. IMO, KC needs a RT or NT over DeCastro, but I understand the pick. You really didn't leave many options for NYJ, most of the main targets were gone. Adams is a fine choice, he can step in right away at RT and could swing to LT if Brick got hurt. I'm really disappointed on how most people on this site devalue Hightower, he's going to be an outstanding player in this league. Coby Fleener is moving up the board and don't be surprised he's drafted in the teens next month. Fleener looks the part and many teams are going to try to copy NE's offense. Good effort, you're giving some GMs in our draft too many ideas. IMO, either Floyd, DeCastro or Kuechly....one will fall to the Jets. I expect a team to reach for Tannehill and Poe which will push someone down to us. ^ If the above 3 are gone, Hightower is still my #1 choice.
Adams is a LT with a very high bust potential. If we needed a LT I could maybe see him but we've got that covered from here to eternity as near as I can see. I'm a big Wolverine fan so I may be biased here but I don't want to potentially watch another high Buckeye draft pick bust out. It would absolutely kill Us. I take Jonathan Martin or trade down for Dont'a Hightower in the situation your mock gives us.
An interesting mock and clearly you spent a lot of time on it. The only thing in the first I didnt agree with is the idea that the Phins dont go after Tannehill at this time. OL would be a sensible pick but its just one of those things its hard to get excited about. I would love for someone we dont want to drop and have the opportunity to trade back to the early 20's I can see Coples doing a fair bit of sliding, I think he makes it into the teens.
I like your draft, seems like a good set of picks for us. personally, I see Floyd/DeCastro in the first and Bruce Irvin in the second. If we don't get Floyd, I see us getting a receiver. I agree with your fifth round pick, and I see us getting a RB and an ILB with our 7th rounders.
It is a good take on what many draft fans would probably call the worst case scenario for the Jets. I would be okay with the first 4 picks, but IMO they only go with 1 WR in the draft and head into next year with Holmes, Schillens, Kerley, Turner and pick. Also I have a feeling they will be taking a Punter, Kicker or both at some point in the draft. Not saying it is smart, but just a gut feeling.
I'm surprised the Floyd pick is considered gutsy by you. To be honest, I understand many feel that Tannehill is the pick here at 8 but I really have my doubts. The Dolphins can risk waiting on Tannehill in the second and if he doesnt get their (which I do think he will) they should have no trouble drafting a QB early for next season. Worst case scenario for them, they trade back into the first with one or two of their many 3rd round picks in order to secure Tannehill. Skipping on a WR like Floyd for a highly questionable QB prospect could end up really burning them in the future. If Floyd gets past the Dolphins, I think he's a Jet. Having Holmes and himself as our #1 and #2 would make Marks life a lot easier. At that point though Id really hope we have some solution for a RT because frankly Id be sacred for Sanchez, even with our new blocking scheme. Ive always liked mocking Kuechly to Seattle, thats why I did so in the 3 round TGG mock, but Seattle needs a DE badly and from my research it is their clear #1 need. I think they would go need over BPA in the first. With Kuechly falling to 15, I just to see how the Eagles pass up a chance to make their LB exceptional. Just my opinion though. I dont think they need a NT just yet, maybe later on in the draft they bring in someone to compete with Jerrell Powe, who has potential. I would say LT is actually a bigger need for them. If somehow Reiff fell to their pick, they could move Albert to RT (which I feel he would do better at) and put Reiff at LT. But with no true LT on the board they need to further address their line problems while also picking BPA, therefore I chose DeCastro. I wanted to try and back the Jets into a corner with this mock, I wanted to see what was the best solution was when most of our major options were no longer available. Adams can be an excellent RT in the NFL and if he can stay consistent our Line would be the best in the league. Never really intended to "devalue" Hightower, Ive always loved him as a prospect for this team and picture him as a legitimate top 20 player in this draft. He kind of just ended up falling in my draft, not so much planned but I wasnt sure what his best fit was. He ended up falling to the Ravens, which although I admit is a boring pick, it is one of the more perfect fits our there. I was thinking of mocking him to the Browns at 22 but I couldnt pick him over a WR. Fleener is definitely coming up quick in the draft and I wouldnt be surprised to see a team in the backend of round one trade up for his services. His potential is through the roof and he is impressing big time. Hey man I try, always looking to contribute to this forum. And like you said I hope I didnt give away too many ideas hahaha, Id like to keep some for my own draft. Id certainly hope so because at that point one of those three would be a lock to our team. This draft is going to be exciting. And like Ive said since the end of the season, this draft will be a blessing in disguise.
I disagree about his "bust potential", he has already shown that he can command most of the players entering this draft, and while I do think he will have some slip up here and their in his rookie season, who doesnt? Maybe that Michigan mindset is commanding you a bit too much :smile:
I appreciate the recognition for my effort, its nice knowing that its being pointed out. Like I said to WW85, I just dont see the Dolphisn reaching for a QB who isnt that overwhelmingly good. Theyre better off either waiting till the second, trading back into the first later on, or waiting till next year to get a better QB prospect. The OLine is never something to really get very excited about but its essential to this whole thing we call an offense. Its like the gears in a watch, while not the most intriguing thing in the world, without them, your watch doesnt work. Without an Oline your offense just doesnt work, and if we want to get our offense back into form we need to fix the essentials. Lastly, I doubt Coples makes it too the teens. The Seahawks at 12 need a DE as bad as anyone in this draft, and seeing as though Coples is the #1 ranked 4-3 DE they wouldn't hesitate to select him .
Thanks man. I would love Floyd or DeCastro but the way this draft fell, we need to take a player who best fits one of the holes on this squad. Unless we're taking Floyd or Blackmon I dont want to choose a WR in the first. This draft is too stacked not too take at least one WR with a high pick and one with a low.
Appreciate it casman. Like I said above, we need to get a few WRs in this draft even with the signings we made this off season. If we took Sanu, we would still need a legitimate burner at WR, a guy who only runs one route but runs it effectively. Also, dont forget I chose Graham because of his solid return skills, I think we need an upgrade at Punter Returner, Graham could be a spectacular one. A Punter and Kicker could be drafted but we're better off signing a UDFA then using a draft pick on a kid, since many of the top 2 Kickers or Punters will be taken around the 5th, not a round we should be reaching in.
I know what you mean about Tannehill - I saw that his old coach is the Phins OC so I am guessing its going to come down to how strongly he recommends him to the FO to a large extent. I would be very cautious about taking such a recent convert that is going to take time to develop when they have nothing really ahead of him. As for Coples, again I am just basing this off what I have been reading which is that his stock is really slipping due to his lack of perceived efforts and interest, I have now seen mocks that have him going inthe late teens which is surprising but not impossible. Things get so fluid in these last couple of weeks with players getting hot and cold - makes it all very interesting.
Overall very interesting read, thanks for it. Will definitely look at some of your later pick prospects when I get a chance as well. I have to say that I think you're really overdrafting Sanu considering the rest of your mock. Stephen Hill, Alshon, and Sanu are all there after round one. You just made an incredibly unsexy pick with Adams. I think you're pretty well compelled at that point to move up for a guy like Vinny Curry and call it a day if this type of situation happens. With Randle the latest shooting WR, there's very little to say that a guy beneath Sanu isn't going to start climbing between now and then as well. You also did a pretty good job of making sure that few people the Jets want are left hanging around. This means that lots of guys that the other teams want are left on the board for the start of round 2. I think this is why guys like Hightower are falling to the Ravens in your mock. When you close one door you open another door even wider in the process. With 3-4 highly valued WR's left on the board and many teams in front of you salivating at snatching up their BPA's in positions of need in front of us I think it's pretty safe to say that we're going to either have a crack at one of them much later in the 2nd round, even possibly getting back around to our 3rd pick.
Very interesting. Obvious that you put work into it. For some reason I'm thinking the front office may try some sort of kicker with a late round pick.
