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Do you agree with the Jets in trading for Tebow?

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  2. No

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  1. KILLER Klown

    KILLER Klown New Member

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    Guy from ESPN radio Denver on Jodi Macdonald, He say the reports on the tebow effect on the locker room were just eyewash, behind the scenes a large number of players didn't think he would ever be a good quarterback. One player requested a trade in the middle of the season. Wide receivers didn't want to play there any more because his inaccuracy would get them hurt. Free agent wide receivers and tight ends would not consider Denver as long as Tebow was quarterback. He also stated Denver's concerns about tebows ability to read defenses, they sending him to a doctor (didn't say what kind) to try and help him with the mental process.
     
  2. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    He held on to the ball for too long because look who he had trying to get open for him.
     
  3. Franchize

    Franchize Well-Known Member

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    Just because he is better than Stanton, doesnt make it a good move. Why doesnt it just mean that getting Stanton was just as dumb? I mean really, you mean to tell me a guy like Donovan McNabb isnt a better qb than Stanton?
     
  4. NY Dork

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    Tebow is not going to take Mark's job. Losing Smith put the wildcat on ice.
    It's obvious the coaches and FO think that was missing last year and it had to be revived. Thus the trade for Tebow.
     
  5. crna2112

    crna2112 Banned

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    Thats true as well. Demaryius Thomas is going to be a beast and I think Decker will be solid, but they weren't the best at getting open last year--again, I attribute this to the long, slow developing routes Fox and McCoy had designed, and also to their youth and inexperience.

    Also, Tebow would have been over 50% completion percentage if not for his WRs having the dropsies literally every game. I understand drops occur for every QB, including the Bradys and Brees of the world, but it was at another level of ineptitude in the Broncos case and it wasn't due to a poorly thrown ball for those that would claim it.
     
  6. gumby74

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    As a Giants fan, it's been 2 days of Tebow, and I'm already sick and tired of it. The dude hasn't played a down of football for the Jets yet, is a questionable QB and yet that's all I hear. Tebow Tebow Tebow. Very annoying.

    Pre Rex, I always cheered for the Jets, but now first him and now Tebow.
     
  7. crna2112

    crna2112 Banned

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    Donovan McNabb isn't a better QB than Stanton.....right now. Once it wasn't even a question, but McNabbs days of being productive are long gone.
     
  8. whichfan

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    Why am I not surprised "reports out of ESPN Denver" are coming out now.

    It's no secret receivers like to play in run first, low passing offenses. But the reasoning why they ran like they ran, once again, has a lot to do with the lack of personnel they had to actually implement the spread option.

    They had a team built for a conventional NFL offense with Kyle Orton. It was as basic as you can get from an NFL personnel stand point and that bad part is it wasn't even great personnel for what it was. Even with Peyton, even running a conventional offense, they will not match-up. I bet you money they're going to get Peyton at least one new receiver. Receivers believe the reason they didn't pass is because it's Tebow. That's currently the perception because that's what's been spread around the NFL. It's not true.

    Traditional NFL offenses had gotten away from the use of tight ends. They use more of your typical wide outs and slot receivers. Fox rarely used tight ends. The spread option lives and dies by them. Along with running backs able to catch the ball and run some basic routes. That's what makes up your short passing games and what opens up your passing game overall. Well neither Denver's running backs, tight ends or receivers were made to do those tasks. They finally signed a guy a week before the playoffs who was previously injured but could have worked and had the talent to do it if he was healthy.

    So when Tebow started, they created the formations that make up the spread option, but personnel wise, they didn't have the right guys with the right talent at the right positions.

    That's what it basically came down to. Stick Tebow in Carolina's offense and he'll have no issues throwing it up. It's what he did in college. But what Denver did, was not build an offense around Tebow. Not in terms of personnel.

    PS: Denver's OC admitted he was coming up with plays by watching college games on freaking TV. They were completely unprepared to do what it was required. Those guys are old school. Nothing against that, but really it was just bad all around. When McDaniels left and Fox came in, they completely changed directions and did nothing to acquire the type of guys or coaches that would work with Tebow. They never wanted to go in that direction.
     
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  9. crna2112

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    Thank the media for that.
     
  10. Franchize

    Franchize Well-Known Member

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    When McNabb is 80 he will be better than Stanton.
     
  11. SanityRemoved

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    Throwing into the dirt isn't a dropsie.
     
  12. crna2112

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    If you say so.
     
  13. crna2112

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    Thats a lazy response. Go watch the film with an un-jaded eye.
     
  14. displacedfan

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    From reading this, you are blaming nothing on Tebow? Tebow was inconsistent, he was inaccurate, and he did miss open receivers. Combine that with the heavy running game, it makes sense receivers didn't want to play there. They had a 50/50 shot of the ball be throwing on target and less than a 50% of a chance of it being a pass play. Some of that falls on Tebow, some on the coaching, some on the receivers, some on the blocking. Tebow should be getting some blame.
     
  15. crna2112

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    Agreed. Tebow needs to improve a lot. No doubt about it. However, he's not the lost hope that some make him out to be. He can succeed in this league.
     
  16. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Yea the drops were bad. Thomas can be good he's very athletic and raw but he was a pretty poor route runner. Decker was awful at getting open but he was good at recovering and making some pretty awesome long yardage catches. The lack of anything resembling a TE hurt a lot too imo.
     
  17. displacedfan

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    I agree he can, but I don't like all the Tebow fans putting all his struggles on everyone but him. It's like all the Sanchez fans who put all the team's struggles on everyone but him. It's a team game, and criticizing the coaches for trying to implement an offense to help Tebow because Tebow could NOT run a normal NFL offense seems over the top. The coaches tried to help him, but they needed to retool the offense over a bye week. There are 10 other guys on the field other then Tebow that would need to learn everthing also. It's not realistic. That is why they were looking to college to get plays, because Tebow succeeds in a college, read-option offense and they were trying to implement plays. It is not possible to put in a whole new playbook after the trade deadline, after FA, after a bye week. You need a whole off-season to do it and maybe even more seasons to get the right players.
     
  18. SanityRemoved

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    Anyone who believes Tebow's mechanics are good is having sunshine and rainbows blown up their ass. Tebow has some positives but throwing mechanics is not on that list.
     
  19. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Get off our cloud asshole!
     
  20. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWZGRGLg_xg&t=1m5s[/YOUTUBE]
     

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