As regular posters here who bother reading my posts know, I am not a Sanchez Fan. But I don't think it is at all clear that pushing him is what he needs or that it would be effective. Yes, I believe the Jet CS has coddled him, and that includes his contract extension this off season. And yes I wish they did not coddle him. But does that mean applying some kind of "new approach" of bringing in Tebow was designed to light a fire under Sanchez, or would succeed at doing so? I think Sanchez is mediocre because he can't read defenses very well, and all that flows from that. I object to his being coddled because it does no good and is divisive in the locker room, not because I think it is the root of the problem. It follows that I don't see any evidence at all that he needs to or will be well served by being pushed. He needs to learn better how to read defenses. Will Tebow help him with that? I think not. Going back to what Steve Young said, his literal statement is a thin veneer over what he is really saying, which is that Montana needed to be pushed by him. How egotistical. Montana was already an HOF Qb with two SB wins to his credit before he ever heard of Steve Young. Steve Young seems like a nice guy and all that, but what a bunch of self centered bs. Also, what Young describes is not at all what the Jet organization is saying, at least some of the time. They are saying Tebow will allow for a more diverse offensive attack by being used situationally. But that is precisely why I am opposed to this move, very much so. Offensive rhythm is lost with that kind of approach. More to the point, when Sanchez comes out and Tebow goes in, what do you think the opposing D will do? Will they not notice? Will that move not tell them something about what the Jets are about to do? It is also something that takes up much time in practice. The great irony here is that many complained that Schotty used to make the Jet O too complicated. Is that not what has now happened with adding Tebow? of course it is. Yes, it's a different type of complexity. It's one that is even more unlikely to succeed.
So am I, but is the coaching staff going to use common sense? Thats the real question. If Sanchez goes into the 4th quarter 35 for 40 3tds and 1 late 3rd quarter INT, and the score is lets say 27-24 opposing team, are they gonna yank Mark in favor of Tim? Sounds silly, but this is the sort of situation this coaching staff is going to face, and sad to say, im not confident in their thought process.
Clearly they'll pass out of the wildcat, but think of it this way...you line up in 31 personnel, with T2 at HB...what happens on the play action? That instance in and of itself, has so many possible permutations that if Sparano establishes a better short to intermediate passing game than Schotty (which is possible by drawing it up from Madden fcol), it's going to make it awfully difficult to defense 3rd and short.
If the net effect of having Tebow is that the Jets run the ball 55% of the time and pass it only 45% then he might have a positive effect on the Jets offense next season. If the effect is that they run the ball 80% of the time when he's on the field and only 40% of the time when Sanchez is on the field? Total disaster. Opposing defenses will figure out the tendencies really fast and then Sanchez is right back where he was last year, over-exposed in a pass-first offense with likely inadequate support around him to make it work well.
The HUGE difference in this is that Young and Montana are both HOF worthy QB's. Essentially, we're choosing between crabs and hemorrhoids. Mark has shown signs of being a quality QB and signs of being an idiot. Tebow has shown he can win despite playing like an idiot. This ideology almost suggests, that one guy beating out the other means the competition helped push guys, and our true QB of the future came to light as a result. It's so much different than Montana/Young. This "competition" could essentially just prove that BOTH our QB and our backup suck.
We used to disagree so often, I can't help but notice how often I agree with what you are saying of late. This is an essential weakness in the whole alternating Qb approach. Think about the debate we unfortunately have about the current Jet TE's. Put in Keller, and either it's a pass play or Keller does crap for run blocking. Take him out and put in Mulligan, and it's going to be a run play for almost certain. So, the Jets take out Sanchez, put in Tebow, and they're going to chuck it forty yards down the field? Teams have game film of Tebow. They will see how the Jets use him differently than Sanchez, and will defend him accordingly. And if the Jets do NOT use Tebow any differently, than what did they get him for? Ftr perhaps chucking it forty yards is a bad example since Sanchez almost never does that, but you get the point.
Unless he can be effective as a TE/H-Back type guy. That could stop teams from overload personnel against teblow in the jesuscat.
I don't necessarily think he does, but I do think he's a good football player, and I don't think it's outrageous to think he could have hands. I was just pointing out that if we could realistically get him on the field in some other capacity on offense while Sanchez is out there - we could no huddle into the jesuscat and hurt teams that way.
But we're not TALKING about talent. We're talking about challenging a young QB to take the next step and become the emotional leader of this team. If you can't find any similarities at all between these situations from an intangible perspective, you missed the whole point of this thread.
Don't underestimate Sparano's creativity. He could very well create a completely new formation/scheme suited to Tebow's strengths as a player. Something never seen before. With Sanchez's athletic ability, I think there could be opportunities for Tebow and Sanchez to be in the backfield at the same time in certain situations.
How does Tebow benefit if Sanchez steps up, plays lights out and solidifies his role as the starter? It doesnt. The truth is this situation will always be tenuous cause Tebow is not the kind of guy that will be happy sitting on the sidelines 90% of the game. My only hope is the Jets find other positional roles for Tebow such as RB, TE, etc where he can use his skillset to help the team. Otherwise, I have a really bad feeling about this QB battle. What if Sanchez sucks and Tebow becomes #1. Then we are stuck with a guy that can't run a traditional NFL offense and puts up very few points on the board. Better hope and pray Sanchez steps up, because option 2 is much worse.
I don't really consider re-using an old formation as being creative. I see it more as a ballsy move than a creative one.
What I was trying to get at is this. Are you saying Sparano is creative because of his use of the wildcat in Miami? Re-using something old isn't a sign of creativity to me ...
Sorry, Steve Young. A multiple superbowl-winning QB being pushed by a number one pick future Hall of Famer in his own right does not equate to this situation very well. This situation sucks- both Sanchez and Tebow were in the bottom 5 in the league in completion percentage last year. Just how hard does one need to be 'pushed' to beat out the other? Meaning, you can be not too good and still beat out either Sanchez or Tebow unless BOTH are significantly better than they were last year. Sanchez could be WORSE than he was last year and have better completion numbers than Tebow had last year. This has the potential to be a Brady Quinn/Derek Anderson/who is less sucky this week 'competition' if it goes poorly. If it goes well, everyone please e-kick me in the nuts. But I don't think it is going to work. At all.
My brother in law is a Cowgirls fan and during the past 11 years he has never made as much sense in his football arguments as you have in an handful of posts. I guess there are sensible fans from every team...