I mean it's pretty easy to get a #2 TE for our franchise to start. We could sign any of like 100 minimum contract blocking TE's that are currently unemployed in FA or spend a mid/late round draft pick on them and expect to have someone that can at least cover Hunter/Ducasse's useless ass up when need be. I also don't think it's necessarily too wise to be trying to get a new starting ILB and OLB especially after we just retained Thomas with Maybin coming in 3rd downs. I think we can add an OLB or an ILB but probably not both. It will be way too congested in that unit and there will be at least one or two guys making good money that serve no useful function anymore. Drafting a versatile LB that you can rotate around however a la Hightower would be significantly awesome however since you would get the utility of 2 guys with the contract and draft pick of only one guy. I'd say we need about 4 starters overall, and we can patch up the last position or two (probably RT and something else) as best we can with mid round picks and crappy FA's until we can turn those weaknesses into a strength with solid FA's or picks next year.
sign Atogwe\Bush & Leonhard, draft Barron\Smith\Martin... BAM fixed.... We're not completely fucked yet
you have a better idea buckshot? Theres no way any team is giving up a starting caliber safety in a trade with us so forget that.
Jarrett Bush is terrible. I have many Packers fans as friends and they are constantly screaming at the TV because of him. he can't cover a cripple.
I think he's ideal as an FS as when he can sit back and observe, he can be a great game ballhawk. I agree he isn't a super freak and does not have insane speed but he is physical, relentless when trying to tackle and can get up in the air for INT's. I have him compared as a taller Jim Leonhard, which is pretty scary as Leonhard's only problem is well height.
Their can be plenty had for the right price. Louis Delmas was rumored to be shopped around by the Lions as well as Tanard Jackson by the Bucs. If we cant acquire someone via trade we must make a push to get Landry and either Atogwe (who I dont exactly love since he cant cover TE's well) or Chris Hope who although, played a lot of Strong Safety, has played Free Safety before and is a decent tackler, pass defender, and gets a pick every once in awhile. I dont want to touch the draft this year for the safety position, every player at the position will be over drafted completely. Maybe Id give Trumaine Johnson a shot but I dont want him to start in the first year. We need vets at the position, not rookies.
well you better believe that we are drafting a safety this yr (most likely Barron). and he is most likely going to have to play a major role.
Yeah maybe on special teams. This scouting department isnt stupid. This is one of the weakest safety classes in years. We are going to draft smart and look into grabbing some safeties in the later rounds to groom but unless we are desperate, we arent going to draft a rookie to start.
Chris Hope has not been the same for a long time. He was useless in TEN his final years. Otogwe is good IF healthy, which he just hardly is. Landry I don't think is any good outside of big hits, as he is slow in coverage, overpursues and is of course never healthy. I have not liked Landry since his days at LSU. To his credit he did away his reputation as a cheap shot artist which he focused upon doing early in his NFL days but for the most part, he will be nowhere near the money. He used to be good for a roughing the passer penalty every week or two. Going to have to draft one if not two safeties. Don't be surprised if the Jets give up 2013 pick(s) to get a pick in 2012 and go OLB/WR/OT/S in the 1st 3 rounds. You can live with inexperience at safety on the NFL level AS LONG AS they have played it(Which rules out Kirkpatrick and Johnson IMO even though they are both very athletic and won't be under the gun unlike the 2011 rookies) as the safety position is one of the few that players can live off based on athletic ability and natural instinct alone.
I completely agree about the fact that this years rookie class at safety is extremely weak, but as of right now we are looking pretty desperate. Imagine if the Jets drafted Barron at 16? God, that thought scares me.
you really see us signing 2 starting safetys? VERY highly doubt it. Even if we do sign Leonhard back he wont stay healthy all season long. Face it dude we are most likely going to have a rookie safety. its not the end of the world bro lol.... If we draft Barron there's a pretty good chance he ends up developing into a really solid safety.
I'm probably just dumb but given cromartie's limitations as a corner, freakish athleticisim and tendency to ball hawk...why not give him a shot at FS? wilson should match or surpass him this year as a corner. Cro's range would be interesting to see back there
This is a problem - being forced to draft in the first round at a certain position. My guess is that we will sign one of these remaining free agents, and a trade of a draft pick for a safety may happen. Those two may be the starters and Smith and a re-signed Leonhard would be the backups along with someone drafted, hopefully not in the first round. I also agree with the guy that suggested the possibility of a trade of a 2013 pick for a 2012 pick to draft a safety. No way that Cro or Wilson moves to safety. Should never have traded Lowery. That fifth round pick could be used for a safety - which would you rather have?
There is good news & bad news. Bad news: Short of Landry signing here, which i don't think he will, the Jets are not going to find a permanent above average fixture at Safety this offseason.Will they likely find a stop gap? Sure..Atogwe is a possibility. Even if they were to get Barron, so many of you are assuming that he'll be an immediate plug and play starter w/o any growing pains. That isn't exactly likely. Safety is a position that typically takes a year to work out all the kinks. Good news: 1. There is more than 1 way to skin a cat. If the Jets can't get a premier talent for the back end..improve the front end. If the Jets are able to add a blue chip pass rusher like Ingram(big if) that will go a long way in improving the pass D. Jets already have arguably the best corner trio in the NFL, and combined w/ a blue chip pass rusher in Rex's blitz scheme, should be able to offset some of the concerns at safety. 2. The Jets don't really NEED an elite talent at safety. They just need an upgrade over Smith & a security blanket for Leonard if his injury is chronic. The requirements for safety are not that high in Rex's scheme. They need to be able to audible pre snap, tackle in the open field & keep everything in front of them. Not crazy requirements. Problem is..Smith can't keep everything in front of him and is a major liability on deep seam patterns.1 or 2 veteran stop gaps at the position is not the end of the world assuming they are not liabilities deep & the pass rush is improved.
I think because he shies away from contact and isn't the best tackler. I would be interested to see if Rex could devise a way to make it work though. He does have ballhawk skills, ridiculously athletic, and good speed.
If we draft Barron at 16 then I will start to support the Dolphins. Actually, scratch that, no I won't. But I will still be shouting at the TV 10 days after the Draft had finished.
