Sanchez: Unnamed teammates "gutless" for anonymous criticism

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  1. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    Was this posted by that cat from Mr. Rogers?
     
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    Can't run fast enough.
     
  3. Jake

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    He can talk all he wants now, but the he should have said it long before now. He can say all the right things. In fact I'm sure he has some PR person on staff telling exactly the right things to say. ALL of it is meaningless. He will NEVER be the leader of this team, or even A leader on this team until he STOPS creating untimely turn overs thru picks and fumbles. He will NEVER develop a good relationship with his receivers, until his accuracy improves and he stop putting his receivers in bad positions so that they can get YAC, not lead them into kill shots, and miss open receivers. A 58% completion percentage is an improvement, but still far from being a true NFL starter's accuracy.

    At this stage perhaps it would be best for Mark, to walk the walk, and forget about taling the talk. Same should hold for Rex as well..
     
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  5. Jake

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    You will NEVER be taken seriously until you take off your chowder goggles.
     
  6. patfanken

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    Hey, your entitled to your opinion.I could be 100% wrong. But if you are going to criticize MY opinion at least show my where any of my comments are wrong

    How can I take YOU seriously if all you can manage is a hit and run comment.
     
  7. Jake

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    It's completely reasonable to expect him to get better. His rebuttal to the annonymous commentary is also completely justified. How can he take those comments seriously if all they can manage are hit and run comments?
     
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    OK Jake, NOW you have opened up a dialog.

    The major point of my post was that all his talk, regardless of whether its the right thing or not, DOESN'T matter. ALL that matters is what he does on the field. He can say anything he wants, but if he continues to turn the ball over and be a 58% passer, he will never get the respect of his fellow players.

    Think about it, Jake. What happened on the field in the last game wasn't an isolated incident. Its something that had been festering the entire season.

    Rex should take a lot of the blame for not dealing with, or even knowing about it (according to him). Holmes should as well, but he's a convicted dickhead and cancer, and your team is contractually stuck with him....so good luck wiith dealing with him. BUT Sanchez never stepped up and dealt with it head on either. That's NOT leadership.

    BOTTOM LINE - until he proves it on field, Sanchez is in "prove it" mode. Prove it to the fans. Prove it to the front office, Prove it to the his coaches and team mates.

    That's not looking at the situation as a Pats fan. That's looking at it as reality.
     
  9. Jake

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    Nobody ever disputed that he needs to get better. This is the first time Sanchez has defended himself publicly. That's something we, as fans of the team, like to see after seeing him get crucified by half of his own fan base, the media, annonymous teammates, and pretty much everyone else on the continent. It's good to have a spinal cord.

    As for your analysis, well, I re-watched every loss this season. Before I rewatched the footage I thought Sanchez was the major problem. Afterwards, it became clear to me that there were a myriad of other problems that made this offense sputter. Sanchez needs to get better, but he's not the only one.
     
  10. MexicanJet

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    I wouldn't call his play "gutless," it's not like he took give up slides around the field or just threw the ball away when there were guy open. He pretty much did the opposite, he tried to make a play and either got the shit tackled out of him or he threw the ball to the other team trying to force it to our dipshit WR's. He just wasn't very good, but he wasn't gutless.

    I like that he's standing up for himself, tho.
     
  11. MexicanJet

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    So that's why there's no hot models hanging around that shit hole in Miami.. Oh okay, gotcha.
     
  12. alleycat9

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    i hate to say it but the guy had a point and i happen to agree with it.
     
  13. patfanken

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    Jake, its never ONE problem in football. That's be beauty of the game. That's what makes it so appealing. Its the fact that everyone is completely dependent on so many people on every play. No other game allows coaching and intellect to have as much impact on the result of games. Teamwork, violence, and intellect, its a great combination.
     
  14. Jake

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    Then you agree the pass protection, deviation from run game, WRs colliding with each other down field, drops, and fumbles due to Wayne Hunter made him look worse than he was this year? Glad we could mediate, Kenneth.
     
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    But you say that his comments mean nothing but they do -- the Jets are widely criticized by having a fractured locker room. When you're QB isn't looked up on as a leader, then it's a problem. PR statements like this helps him step into that role a little more. He needs to take charge, that's why it means "something".

    Does it mean anything on the field? Probably not, but it's not as if these comments are just useless garbage, it's one step closer to solidying, hopefully, his role as a leader.
     
  16. Jake

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    If anything it was just him answering a fuckin question. They said "What's your take on annonymous teammates calling you lazy" and he said "it's a bunch of bullshit" in a nice way. How anyone can have a problem with that is beyond me.
     
  17. NYDeadEye

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    I don't think he has a problem with it, just stating his opinion -- I think there's more to being a leader than just performing well on the field. Is it a factor? Of course and important one but if you just stand there and let people shit on you, regardless of your skill, people won't respect you.
     
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    I really like Mark growing a pair and pushing back against 'Holmes'.

    But until Mark punches a midget in the face outside a nightclub, I ain't buying it 100%.
     
  19. Jetaho

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    Good to see Sanchez taking accountability, clearing the air with Holmes, and pledging to get better. He still needs to prove it on the field, and I hope he does. It will be really nice to tell the Haters they were wrong.
     
  20. patfanken

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    Not really, Praise. The only real importance of anything he "says", is to the media, fans, and national perception of him and the Jets. I don't think the players really care about anything he says at this point. The time he should have dealt with this issue was early in the season, man to man. and within the confines of the locker room. He didn't and neither did Rex, and it festered all season

    BTW- He's already "taken charge", whatever that's worth. What about all the "Jets west" stuff the last few years. Didn't he buy everyone T-shirts and ice cream. The fact that he "took charge" and it didn't translate into respect for his game is kind of telling, isn't it?

    Hey, I'm not saying he can't turn this around. He can. But its all just lip service until it happens on the field.
     

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