Pennington can't play anymore but he sure could help

I agree, he should be involved with the 2012 Jets in some capacity. I'm not sure what position but the organization should find something for him.

In before this thread gets stupid

 

Yep, that and some pixie dust should do the trick.

Poof. Now he's a coach.

 

I think because he is a very smart person/QB so people think he could be come a coach. I wouldn't mind having him as a consultant because he had to deal with the New York media and Sparano's offensive schemes. Definitely just can't immediately make him a coach though.

 

You asked why, I posted a link that sums up why people have such a high opinion of Pennington.

I'd take anyone on the top 10 of that list as a QB coach or an "Consultant" for Sanchez.

Of course, you are also turning the typical comment of "We'd like to have him here in some capacity" into people being "sure he would be great at coaching". I suppose it's just you trolling as usual.

 

Chad just got done playing in the league and has quite a few common expieriences with Sanchez. So you take all of Chad's possible insight into playing at a high level in New York then add in that he was known as one of the smartest QB's in the game and it becomes pretty clear why it is reasonable to think Chad would be able to help Sanchez.

 

Please share your requirements for someone becoming a position coach or consultant of some type.

 

I was talking about coaching.

Perhaps if he showed some ability to be a coach at some lower level, maybe college if not high school. But the idea floated around here that Chad could come to the Jets in some meaningful capacity as a coach and have an impact, my question is what is it from his background that makes those people assume Chad can and should do that?

I know he was good at holding a clipboard and waving towels when he was as he often was injured. But call me crazy, I don't think those things mean he's got great coachng material written all over him.

Ftr I am hardly saying I know he would fail as a coach. I really don't know. After all he's less likely to get injured as a coach. I just wonder why there's this common assumption he would be great at it.

 

Is it really that far of a stretch to think that someone who's greatest asset as a player was cerebral would make a good coach? It's not really. You're making a big deal out of it because you have an unhealthy hate Pennington. Did he steal your lunch money or something?

 

Ftr other people here did talk about him being a coach, and my post which you posted that link in response to specifically asked about COACHING. You must have missed it.

It is a fair question how Pennington's completion record makes him great coaching material. At the pro level? No prior experience?

You don't like my posts here. I don;t care for yours, either. I am one of hte best posters here, and am not a troll. You add nothing.

 

I told you already I don't see how that adds up to his being a pro level coach without any prior experience. You don't like my position on it, fine.

AT least you admit it's something of a stretch. Now we are only debating how much.

I have no personal dislike of Pennington. My beef is with that part of the fanbase that overestimates his value. I was glad to see him leave since he took up too much cap space and didn't get it done. Now some people around here seem to think it obvious he's the answer to certain coaching woes.

It is not fair to ask if that is really the case? I read the forum rules here and saw nothing that would justify seeing my position as out of bounds. It isn't.

 

So you're probably unaware of the fact that we currently have a positional coach on our roster who went directly from NFL player to NFL positional coach. It's not a big stretch.

btw - I never said or implied you were breaking any rules. I just find your position to be silly, yet again.

 

Well I am always extremely interested in hearing you say so.

 

Let me see here...

Mike Pettine. currently serves as the defensive coordinator for the National Football League's New York Jets. He was formerly the outside linebackers coach for the Baltimore Ravens. He joined the Jets after Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan was named head coach of the Jets. Pettine coached high school football in Pennsylvania at North Penn and William Tennent high schools after working as a graduate assistant at the University of Pittsburgh (1993–1994). He also spent four years as an assistant coach for his father, at Central Bucks West High School. In 1999.

Tony Sparano. Former Head Coach, etc....

Mike Westoff. 18 years NFL experience before joining the Jets. That's coaching experience.

But you are talking the more junior coaches, of course.

Matt Cavanaugh. In his fourth year with the Jets, he previously spent four seasons as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at the University of Pittsburgh.

Dave DeGuglielmo joins the Jets after spending the last three seasons as Miami's offensive line coach (2009-11).

Mike Devlin. Devlin retired from playing after the 1999 season. The following year, he became a quality control coach for the offensive component of the Cardinals, before becoming an assistant offensive lineman coach. During the 2004-2005 seasons, Devlin served as offensive line coach for the Toledo Rockets. In 2006, Devlin became an assistant coach with the New York Jets.

Karl Dunbar. Shortly after his playing career ended, Dunbar started coaching at the high school level, first at Opelousas (LA ) High, in 1996, before moving to Beau Chene (LA) High in 1997. His return to college football came in 1998-99 at Division I-AA Nicholls State as the defensive line coach.

In 2000, he started working with the Tigers’ strength and conditioning program, before being hired as defensive line coach by Oklahoma State's Les Miles. At OSU, Dunbar tutored Kevin Williams during his breakout senior season and helped him become the first Cowboys defensive lineman to be a 1st-round draft pick since Leslie O'Neal 17 years earlier.

Moving on to the NFL, Dunbar was hired by Lovie Smith to guide to Chicago Bears defensive line. He helped tutor a young and talented line that included rookie 1st-round pick Tommie Harris and 2nd-rounder Tank Johnson. The Bears led the NFL in 3rd-down defense, allowing opponents to convert at a 30.5% rate while ranking 15th in the NFL in pass defense. After the 2004 season, Dunbar returned to his alma mater, which had just hired Les Miles as new head coach. In 2005, Dunbar’s linemen paved the way for the Tigers defense to rank #5 in the nation in total defense at 276.8 yards per game and 7th in the country in rushing defense at 94.8 yards per game. The defense also allowed only 15.2 points per game, which ranked 8th in the nation, and led the SEC with 39 team sacks.

In 2006, Dunbar returned to the NFL, as he was hired by the Vikings' new head coach, Brad Childress. Under his tutelage, the so-called "Williams Wall", consisting of defensive tackle Kevin Williams and nose tackle Pat Williams, led the NFL in defense against the run each year between 2006 and 2008. Over the same period, the Vikings only allowed an average of 70.8 rushing yards per game.

Dunbar joins the Jets after spending the last six seasons (2006-11) as the defensive line coach for the Minnesota Vikings.

Justin Galac. Galac comes to New York after seven seasons at Villanova University (2005-11) where he served as the football team’s strength and conditioning coach, earning recognition as the Samson FCS Strength and Conditioning Coach of the Year in 2010.

Bill Hughan. Bill Hughan joins the Jets after three seasons as the assistant strength and conditioning coach for the Atlanta Falcons. Prior to his time with Atlanta, he was the assistant strength and conditioning coach for the Oakland Raiders (2004-07).

Before coaching in the NFL, Hughan was an assistant on the collegiate level, serving as the assistant strength and conditioning coach at the University of Missouri (2001-03), a graduate assistant at Columbia University (1999-2000) and an assistant coach at Yale University (1997-98).

Ben Kotwica. Ben Kotwica was promoted to assistant special teams coach after two seasons as a quality control coach on defense and special teams.

Joined the Jets after two seasons as the defensive coordinator at the U.S. Military Academy Preparatory School, in Monmouth, NJ.

Sanjay Lal. Sanjay Lal was appointed the Jets Wide Receivers Coach on January 13, 2012.

Lal most recently coached with Oakland from 2007 through this past season, the first two years as an offensive quality control assistant and the last three as the wideouts coach, until head coach Hue Jackson and his staff were dismissed by new Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie.

Anthony Lynn. Anthony Lynn led the Jets running backs during the 2009 season, in which the Jets led the NFL in rushing average at 172.2 yards per game.

Lynn came to the Jets after spending the last six years as a running backs coach with the Browns (2007-08), Cowboys (2005-06) and Jaguars (2003-04).

In Cleveland worked with Jamal Lewis, who finished with 1,304 yards rushing in 2007 despite missing two games.

At Dallas, he oversaw the emergence of Julius Jones and Marion Barber III. At Jacksonville, Fred Taylor recorded two of the top four rushing seasons in Jaguars history.

Jim O'Neil. Jim O’Neil spent the last three seasons serving as recruiting coordinator and safeties coach at Eastern Michigan.

In 2005, he was the defensive coordinator/defensive backs coach at Towson University.

In 2003-04, he was a graduate assistant at Northwestern, where he worked with the defensive backs.

Assistant offensive line coach at Penn, which won the 2002 Ivy League title. Prior to his time with the Quakers, he was an assistant offensive line/tight ends coach at Albany.

Paul Ricci. Ricci previously spent part of 2011 as the director of basketball performance for Texas Tech.

Prior to Texas Tech, he served in the same capacity at the University of Maryland for three seasons.

Brian Smith. Here's your man! Brian Smith currently serves as the Quality Control/Defense coach, where he works closely with defensive coordinator Mike Pettine. In short he's an intern/gopher, not a positions coach.

Mike Smith. Mike Smith becomes the outside linebackers coach after spending the last two seasons with the Jets as a coaching intern. (Kind of like Brian Smith.)

Bob Sutton. We all know Bob, for better or worse. I think he did some coaching for Army.

Lance Taylor. Lance is in his third season with the Jets.

He previously was the offensive quality control coach (2011) and a coaching intern (2010).

Taylor was previously the wide receivers coach at Appalachian State (2009) after serving as a graduate assistant coach for two seasons at his alma mater, the University of Alabama (2007-08).

Dennis Thurman. Dennis Thurman led the defensive backs for the Jets in 2009, helping the defense allow the fewest points, fewest passing yards and fewest total yards in the NFL.

Spent six years coaching the Ravens secondary (2002-07), four as secondary coach, two as defensive assistant alongside Head Coach Rex Ryan...The team led the NFL with 126 interceptions and 18 interception returns for touchdowns while he was coaching Ed Reed (34 INT, 2002-07), Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle and Deion Sanders, among others.

Before coming back to the NFL, he coached the defensive backs at his alma mater, USC, for eight years (1993-2000).

Coached defensive backs for the Cardinals (1988-89).

In short, I did not see a positions coach on the Jet site who came directly from being an NFL player.

What did I miss?

 

Yeah, what does Chad Pennington know about being a quarterback for the New York Jets anyway? Or Sparano? I can honestly say Big Blocker's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. I'll bet you could find a duffell bag with a million dollars in unmarked bills on the side of the street, and decide the money should be burned in a garbage pail to keep you warm.

 

Seeing as how you have nothing to add here but personal attacks, I wish we had a better crop of newbies.

 

I'm sorry that I don't have the energy to spell out why Pennington wouldn't be a shitty option in almost any official capacity you can think of on the Jets, that hasn't already been shouted at you 5 times in this thread before you ignore it. Sometimes it's better to just call a spade a spade.

 

It's quite simple, really. I am not saying playing football has nothing to do with coaching. But before someone who is a former player gets to be put into a position that the team relies on them, to perform as a COACH, they should have some track record, show some ability as a coach. It's not the same job as being a player.

What is so controversial about saying that?

 

Fixed it for you.

 

The fact is that every coach on the Jets, with the exception of Brian Smith who will in effect serve as an intern/assistant, has varying degrees of prior coaching experience.

 

Again, we have a coach on our staff that went directly from playing football in the NFL to coaching in the NFL. We may have more than one, I stopped at the first. This happens in the NFL, and it's no stretch to think a very intelligent former NFL player could become a positional coach without prior coaching experience.