He's a big dude 6'7 300lbs I'm sure he would be able to take on the man in front of him and move him a bit. And when it comes to pass protection there really isn't any way to avoid zone blocking these days with all the stunts these d-lineman run.
Good take. I can't say I know enough about zone/man blocking schemes to say who would and wouldn't fit where. I'm under the impression zone is a little more complex than man. That's about all I know. I also can tell you Wayne Hunter didn't play well in a zone blocking scheme in 2011 but curiously played solid RT in 2010 vs Pittsburgh (twice - Woodley), Chicago (Peppers). Crazy world we live in.
79+ Maybe Mangolds a bust in a man-blocking scheme? There might be a slight drop in production (or increase for that matter), but at the end of the day, you have to block defenders. Its not rocket science. Not when you've been in the league for 6 years. If he was a rookie that had never played zone and we wanted him to play zone, it would be hard for him to adjust. But not when you've played zone for years in the NFL and now switching to a man scheme where your assignment is more simple.
^Mangold and Brick played in a man scheme their first two seasons under Tony Wise. Interestingly Brick never took it to the next level until 08...
Listen to this dude every week on Sirius NFL radio he seems like a stand up guy and they always have nothing but positive things to say about him like "If you wanna see one of the top RTs in the league watch Eric Winston on sundays"
well to be fair.. he'd be replacing a guy who hasn't excelled in any scheme. AND GAVE AWAY OUR PLAYS AT THE GOAL LINE IN PITT. I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT WAYNE HUNTER.
Are you telling me Wayne Hunter is actually good at man blocking scheme now? Just what is that thing you are smoking? I need some of that stuff too...
Sorry but this would be a non flashy but SMART move to sign Winston. Let HUnter go to the Jersey shore and hang out for all I care but Winston is a huge upgrade nomatter what scheme we plan to run. In saying this if Brick and Mangold are better in a zone blocking system than fat Tony should mold his type of blocking around what we have to a certain extent.
Pete Kendall in his swansong days - he couldn't handle a DL by himself. That's a case of a zone blocking OL that can't do man blocking. A slow OL that can't move his feet quick enough to spring traps and pulls? That's how you spell Man-blocking OL that can't do shit in zone blocking. Now, with the exception of Wayne Hunter, Jets OL can block on their own, and are agile enough. (Jets do have very good talent up front, even though the talent level at both guard position need some replenishment soon through the draft) It doesn't matter what the blocking scheme is going to be as long as that human turnstile does not start. Getting Winston is going to be a HUGE move the the offense; if Tannenbaum locks up Winston for a long term, then Sanchez may be able to have some REAL pocket. Unlike last year. Then Jets can focus on getting WR2 and upgrading the talent level on the defense.
Great way to maximize the draft by using a high pick on safety or lb since we would have rt taken care of. Bring in henne to backup/ compete w sanchez and a solid draft and we would be competitive again.
Im not sure Winston fits in this blocking scheme, i understand the Texans had a hybrid scheme of man and zone but i wonder if he can convert, he is a great run blocker for sure and would be a big help on the right side. Im thinking he will most likely get a fat contract from a team that needs a Tackle badly. But hes worth a look depending on how Sparano runs the line.
What you need to think about is NOT whether Winston will fit in well. Rather you should be thinking about how much better this OL could be once Wayne Fucking Hunter does not have to start at RT any more. YES. That is the point.
Ok... time for some SAT practices. Offensive Lineman:Wayne Hunter = Offensive Coordinator: ( ) Fill in the blank.
I'm not so sure Winston would be the magic solution to our RT troubles. Some interesting Football Outsiders info: The Texans ran better off RT (4.6 YPC) than they did off LT (4.16), plus better on right side outside runs (4.15 YPC) than they did left side runs (3.63). I'm sure more than just Eric Winston factors into that, but it's an interesting note that he manned the stronger side of a very good running game. Comparatively, the Jets were significantly better running on RT than they were on LT (4.48 YPC vs 2.89) but were better on left side outside runs/tosses (3.74 vs 4.14). Brandon Moore being a stout run blocker could factor into that first stat as well, though. Other stats: Winston did give up 7.5 sacks in 2011, though. (Hunter 8.5) *Sanchez sucky stat of the day: Texans only lost 33yds on Winston's 7.5 allowed sacks, Jets lost 57.5 yards on Hunter's 8.5 allowed sacks* Winston was called for 7 penalties in 2011 (2 false start, 5 holding), Hunter: 9 total, 7 false start, 2 holding. I think he would be a marginal improvement over Hunter, but would command money that requires significant improvement. A lot of teams have a lot of cash to throw around this offseason. I also think Sparano's tutelage can make enough of a difference to offset much of that gap.
These are surprising stats, he doesnt appear on paper that much better than Hunter vs how much more he would cost. This is just on paper of course, anyone has to be better than Hunter.
I don't think Winston fits what the Jets need. Everyone is pointing to pass pro as priority # 1 at Right tackle. That's not to say that isn't important, but just as crucial is finding someone who can be an anchor for the ground and pound. Winston is more of a finesse zone guy.
According to profootballfocus Winston has allowed 20 or fewer pressures in each of the last 3 years. Hunter allowed 32 this year according to them.
