Thank you! Jesus, typical Jets fans though. Over-react to something before logically thinking about it. I have 0 problems at all with them bringing back Hunter without any viable options on the table. Unless you go RT in the first two rounds, will you be bringing in anyone better than Hunter? There are no top tier RT's out there that we can afford. Hunter isn't good, but the ramifications of blindly letting him walk without a solution in place could be worse.
Peyton's brass probably told Tanny to trade Hunter if the Jets want any chance in hell for his services. I know it sounds a little too simple, but given the circumstances regarding the Manning pursuit, I wouldn't be surprised either if that was the case.
I didn't know people on this board had a brain. This is a very good post. Although the free agency class is thin I've heard many tackles could get cut, Sam baker, marcus McNeil, Jamal brown included. McNeil and brown are pro bowl caliber tackles but injury risks, if they are signed and injuries prove to be a problem Wayne isn't a terrible back up. Also keep in mind the that although 2 million and change seems like a lot of money it's only about 1% of the cap, a little high for a back up but not the worst thing in the word.
Hunter would be a decent backup, I just don't see any team in the NFL making an offer for him after the year he had. Hopefully somebody is desperate enough. What would we get for him, a 5th rounder at best?
Because you try to upgrade, and if you can't, you have something to fall back on that is probably better than any other option that will be available (and affordable). Also, I don't think it's fair that we can give Mark a pass because the OC sucked, but Hunter gets crapped on. Sparano has some pretty different blocking schemes and it might suit Hunter a lot better than your traditional "stand there and don't let anyone by you" blocking scheme.
What a horrible feeling it must be to be the owner of the Jets right now. You don't know if your QB can play. You don't know if your OC is any good. You don't know if your HC is actually anything more than a glorified DC with a fancier title. You don't know if your personnel department can provide top level talent on a consistent basis, although you have to be suspecting not after the last 4 drafts or so. And you have no clue if your GM is a faker or not. Owners are supposed to have more certainty than that by the 7th off-season of a GM's tenure.
I've read analyses of how his contract number compares to his rating, and his contract number is way too high. The moving part in anyone taking him is they might well take him, but at a number that is lower than his contract, meaning the Jets pick up the difference. I suppose the Jets could insist that the trade include an undertaking for the other team to pay him his full salary, but a requirement of that sort would obviously affect the value of what is traded to the Jets. In short what the Jets might get for Hunter would probably be affected by what happens with his contract, meaning who pays what portion of his salary. Ftr it makes no sense to me that they let his contract go guaranteed, even under this excuse of "insurance" that one of our resident homers came up with. They could and should have renegotiated that situation down to a number that reflects his real market value, which CLEARLY is less than his guaranteed number.
1) Who in there right mind is trading a better RT for a Hunter? 2) Who is giving Sanchez a pass? There's no such thing as a stand there and don't let anyone by you blocking scheme. Where do you come up with that fake crap?
So, to the "What an insurance policy!" folks: How does placing Hunter on trading block now work as that insurance policy? Care to enlighten me? And how does cutting Hunter (and re-signing him for much cheaper figure that he deserves) go against that insurance policy logic? If Hunter is that good, Jets shouldn't be cutting him in the first place, (which is not the case obviously) and based on that body of work last season, no sane GM will touch that turd with 10 foot pole anyway, so how does NOT cutting Hunter when Tannenbaum could make sense at all to you? Care to explain?
1. No one is trading a better RT for Hunter, but if you get yourself an extra pick or more cap space, you put yourself in the position for a better RT. 2. Giving him a pass as in "maybe a new OC will make him a better QB". 3. Different linemen have different responsibilities in different situations. Schotty parked Mark in the pocket or ran up the middle, 9 times out of 10. When you start rolling your QB out or running outsides the tackles, blocking assignments change. That's not fake my friend, that's football.
Keeping Hunter around is not the worst decision in the world, as long as he isn't starting. Depth on the O-line is a serious concern, and there's a good chance Rob Turner isn't back for a whole host of reasons (no one knows how bad the injury is, and his agent is our favorite asshole Neil Schwartz). He's not bad to have around in a pinch, as long as we get a legitimate starter. Plus the man scheme may cut down on his brain farts quite a bit.
The only person in the NFL that Hunter is apparently better than is Vlad Ducasse. That's like buying insurance that reimburses you in the event of a lightning strike on the chimney burning you out while ignoring the frequent wild fires that have destroyed houses all around you in the last couple of years.
I just think it is hysterical that Peyton Manning goes on the market and two days later the Jets let slip that they are trying to trade Hunter into a market that will have no buyers.
Let's be real, there's not going to be much of a market for Wayne Hunter, if any at all. This seems to be a reaction to something, but without knowing all the details it's impossible to tell. I think it's reasonable to think that while at the same time criticize his play from last year. If that's "giving him a pass", then OK. If you really think the responsibility of our RT was as simple as stand there and don't let anyone by you then I guess I've overestimated you.
It is not keeping Wayne Hunter that is problematic. It is keeping that road pylon at staggering 2.5M cap figure. He deserves nothing more than 500k, if that much. (Vet min will let him collect some 750k to 800k, but that's about all he deserves.)
It very well could be. Yet another reason why it's a little shortsighted to be bashing Tanny right now. So why can't we do that with Hunter? You took what I said way way too literally.
What??? If there is no market for the road pylon that is Wayne Hunter, it is prudent to keep him at 2.5M cap figure? Is that what you are saying? Are you really that stupid?
Could Wayne Hunter do better in a man blocking scheme, sure, is that likely? Probably not for a 31 year old career backup who never started until last year and sucked when he did.
Totally agree, but I doubt there's a whole hell of a lot Tanny can do about that at this point. He can't make him restructure and if he's released now we gotta eat the whole damn thing anyway. (minus 50k, which is just strange...) Hence the shopping him silliness. At this point unless somebody comes with a stupid offer (5th would probably be good enough to be considered "stupid") we might as well have him hang around. Come August you get a team in a bind with a key preseason injury and who knows what happens...
