Why Yes, I would Trade Revis

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  1. Reece

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    Revis plays at a high level, but has been beaten by numerous #1 receivers. He hasn't been abused by many outside of a handful of games, but is not the best to ever do it. I'm sorry but he needs to play at this level for a few more years and actually win something, whether it be a Superbowl or numerous accolades (dpoy, MVP,etc). His instincts are elite but it's almost blasphemy to crown him the best to ever do it. Personally a cornerback that can lock you down, score points and be multidimensional is much more valuable than one that can supposedly shut down 1 receiver a game. I've seen Revis beat by Randy Moss, Stevie Johnson, Wes Welker and Brandon Marshall so I don't know if that claim holds true in every game. He is nice but I'm starting to believe people are elevating him to the status of a legend without a long standing track record. Give it time and this may be the case, but way too premature to utter he is the best ever.
     
  2. GMCJETS

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    No way in hell would I ever consider trading our best defensive player and best CB in the NFL.
     
  3. CONN-JET.2.0.3.

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    the fact that you can recall off hand the times that he's been beat by a receiver just goes to show how elite he is. If we had a better pass rush he probably be close to perfect.


    you heathen... praisebetorevis!
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Revis is easily the most dominant player in the league at any position. He has been beaten a hundful of times by those players you mention over the course of the past 3 years. But you diminishing his level of play is transparent. You don't know anything about the cornerback position, apparently. Cornerbacks don't win Super Bowl rings, teams do. Now go jerk off to that game-worn sleeveless hoodie you have framed on your bathroom wall.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    So if someone offered you 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks, a third round pick and a few players for Revis you wouldn't consider that? Everyone has a price.
     
  6. JoeWillie130

    JoeWillie130 Well-Known Member

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    What corner in nfl history has never gotten beat? Every corner does. That is why Revis 09 season was probably the best season a corner ever had because no one beat him ( maybe Ted ginn on one play where I'm not even sure if Revis was manned up on him). He should have been dpoy that year.

    I agree he needs to do it longer to be the best ever but the question here is would you trade him and even if you argue offenses can just avoid him to limit the impact he has and exploit other weaknesses in our secondary well that true but then imagine how badly we would be exploited of they didn't have to pretty much eliminate their number one option from the game plan.
     
  7. Brunell's Debt

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    You can count the number of bad games that Revis has had over the past 3 years on one hand. That's unprecedented for a cornerback, and the fact that he's done it in an era where it's essentially illegal to press receivers or hit the QB makes it even more amazing.

    He's obviously not the greatest of all time yet (he hasn't played for long enough,) but you can make a rock solid case that he has had the best single year (2009) and the best 3 year stretch of any cornerback in football history.

    Darrelle Revis is better than "nice." He is our best and most important player, and it's really not that close. Replace him with a league average corner, and our entire defense would be exposed.

    No player is untouchable, but no team would ever make the kind of offer that it would take to make moving Revis worthwhile. At least not now that Al Davis is dead.
     
  8. GMCJETS

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    Draft picks are "what if" players, need we look back at JETS history when it comes to draft picks? Revis is a proven NFL CB and a dam good one.
     
  9. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    If we had a GM who think out of the box he should trade DR in a second since the team is presently in a decline & it will be some years before we are again contenders & by that time DR will be way past his prime & we would get nothing for him :sad:
     
  10. RochesterJet

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    Guys, lets put emotions aside on this thread and use your god damn head. Having 25+ Million tied up in your cornerbacks is absolutely ridicules (3 #1 picks) and a big reason we are in cap hell. Further more, if you look at how Revis’s contract is structured, he is likely to hold out again at the end of 2012 season (as he takes a massive annual pay cut 2+ Million). I think we all remember how difficult he was to sign to this deal, what head-aches will we have in the next negotiation? His value will never be high than it is now; he needs to be the sacrificial lamb here before he holds out again, he will.

    Not that I am comparing Wilson and Cro to Revis, but we have 2 former #1 picks in these guys too, they will be more than serviceable. The key here is not the draft picks, it’s the cap relief and the ability to add depth and front line starters at other positions besides CB. Yes, Revis is one of the all time greats to play for the Jets (talent wise) im not arguing that point. But he offers us just as much, probably more, as a trading chip than he does as a CB.
     
  11. RevisIsland18

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    oh lord...we got possibly one of the greatest defensive players in the nfl on our team and you want to trade that away...please stop this nonsense....
     
  12. milo

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    The example is kind of out there...maybe I'll even say moronic, but the concept isn't.

    There's a reason that Green Bay is consistently good, and will probably get better given the new rookie pay system - they barely mess with free agency, they draft incredibly well, and they part ways with players near the top, even if they're a shade early, before their cap number explodes.

    As much as I want Revis to go down as the greatest Jet of all time (which he will if he stays here) we're are 10 months away from the sequel to the Neil Schwartz induced money-grubbing clusterfuck of 2010.

    The specifics of the argument are less important than the philosophy behind it.
     
  13. Reece

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    I find it peculiar when it's mentioned that "Revis 09 season was probably the best season a corner ever had because no one beat him" and then its followed by "maybe Ted ginn on one play where I'm not even sure if Revis was manned up on him". You refuted your own argument. Revis is an elite player but is NOT the best defensive player in the league and is NOT the best cornerback in league history. If a team comes with 2 1st rounders and maybe 2 2nds, the Jets would be silly to not take that deal considering the impending contract negotiations on the horizon and the state of the rest of the team outside of Revis. With the emergence of faster pass catching TEs, Pass catching RB's, rules that favor the WR and Qb protection, having a CB that can lock down 1 receiver is menial.
     
  14. Coach K

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    The only logical scenario in which revis would be dealt would be failure to extend his contract with 1 yr remaining at a point where they are FAR apart on discussions.

    Then as far as compensation you would need to net a guaranteed quality player 26 yrs or younger. Plus a 1st rd pick and another pick in the 2nd or 3rd rd.

    That being said I don't ever see that happening
     
  15. JetsVilma28

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    This thread needs to die. (final post here)
     
  16. Dierking

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    too much money tied up in a CB who has a propensity to hold out and will shortly have an opportunity to do so once again. If they could get a decent haul out of trading him now while his value is highest, they'd have to consider it.
     
  17. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Yes all the nay sayers are just looking backwards instead of looking into the future of both of the NYJs being non contenders for years to come & DR skills ebb until he will have NO value to any team :jets:
     
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    When the redskins traded champ how did that workout for them?
     
  19. davecrazy

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    How'd it work out for Denver? They haven't won shit with Champ.
     
  20. Barcs

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    Trading Revis would be mind blowingly stupid. He's the best player on our team, period. He's one of the main reasons our passing defense was as good as it was. Don't trade Revis, compliment him with a good pass rusher and safety. It's a passing league, yes, so if we can alter our defense to suffocate the pass, it will be very difficult for any elite QBs to beat us. Revis isn't going to hold out again. Please stop with that absolute nonsense.
     

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