the kid was regularly shriveling up in the backfield at the first sign of pressure, throwing sidearm throwing too early throwing into the los. i dont dvr the games, im not a coach for the jets there is no purpose for me to study the tape, seriously dont you think thats a bit much as a fan? however i could plainly see that many many times sanchez did this, this was a new phenomenon for him this year and it began in baltimore.
The numbers show that the percentage of hits that ended up as sacks was higher for the Jets than average. Look it up at nfl.com. Now, why would that percentage be significantly higher for one team than the average? It's not complicated. It's because the Qb holds on to the ball too long. Sanchez Fans complain all the time, throwing the OL under the bus, about his sacks. It is like it has never occurred to them that the Qb's play and decision making is a factor in sacks. Yes, it is also a factor in hits, although less so, but a hit that ends up as not a sack is better than a sack (unless it's an interception, of course). And what separates a hit from a sack is that the Qb gets the ball out there before a sack occurs. Sanchez was not hit more than average. He was hit less than average. Focusing as his defenders do on sacks and sacks alone is an unfair way of deriding the OL's performance. The numbers show that the OL is not worse than average, as many Sanchez Fans claim. The higher percentage of hits that end up sacks is on him. Why would Sanchez have a higher percentage of hits become sacks? Who else on the Jets do Sanchez Fans want to blame for that than him?
Typical Sanchez Fan quote. Let me shorten it for you. Everyone else on the team sucks except for Mark Sanchez. Got it.
I'm not going to get too involved this huge debate -- but I think it's pretty obvious the point is this, and if I misunderstood, then sorry but I got this:" It's not just Mark Sanchez's fault, nor are they saying that he isn't to blame. But this kid got FUCKED UP. He just didn't take sacks, he got hit big and usually often. They're not saying he didn't hold onto the ball too long, or that he always read the blitzes, it's just that there are other factors. Sanchez getting blind sided, WR's not getting separation, there a multitude of factors and to just blame Mark Sanchez is short sighted. How many huge hits did Sanchez take that made highlight reels? Von Miller, the entire Baltimore game, Ware. The kid was taking some pretty nasty hits. Short of putting Big Ben in there, I don't think there are many QB's who wouldn't be a bit nervous if Wayne Hunter is your RT. Everyone didn't meet expectations last year, and it's not on the shoulders of any one individual.
People like BB don't care. They have a hatred for the kid, and no matter what facts you present them with they will still put it all on Sanchez. And if someone is logical and can see Sanchez was only a portion of the problem they are labeled a Sanchez fan. I'm done debating with the likes of him.
Look, man, I am the first to bash the crap out of Sanchez during the game when he screws up, but this is a generalization about him that needs to go. Baltimore was a bad game for him because it was the first game that the weak points in the O-line crumbled in front of him totally, even considering the way Brick and Hunter got abused by DWare on the outside in week 1. Sanchez never resembled an elite QB during the first few weeks, that is certain, but there was a lot of difference about the way the offense was schemed compared to the previous 2 seasons and you knew it if you knew what you were looking at. The running game was far from a focus and the passing game was a lot different because play-action never happened to be a priority. Schotty went whole-hog on the WCO aspect of his tard offense and didn't worry about the consequences with the crappy dynamic of his line. During that time (the first 5-6 weeks) I saw Sanchez make some escapes from pressure that I also applauded. He was responding to pressure the way a very good QB does, even though the offense was obviously out of sync. These are things you see when you watch the game again without the anxiety of in-game fandom. I'm not sure if you have noticed over the years, but being a fan on the internet has become something different than talking to the drunk guy at the end of the bar wearing the Curtis Martin jersey about how much Moleface sucks, so your idea of being a fan is somewhat antiquated.
Brian Schottenheimer isn't coming back. You must be crushed. Fewer morons to defend on the team. What a pathetic pool of arguments you choose. The Jets offensive line was terrible, and anyone who argues to the contrary is really grasping like a drowning man in a pool of shit.
Hey, he should be jumping for joy about Schotty being gone but with whatever insane way his mind works he somehow gets it flipped around backwards. No legitimate excuses to defend Sanchez's failings means the Sanchez apologists are naked to the world from now on. If he doesn't put up production, it's time for the Big Blocker to swoop in and drop nuts all over everyone's face all day every day forevz. And hey, with how shitty we all know Sanchez REALLY is....it's like a guarantee that Sanchez fails no matter what we do for him...amirite?
..and the fact that Rex will go down with the ship with Sanchez=new start in 2013 ...2012 will be UNBEARABLE to watch for all NYJ fans
2012 will depend much on how many holes the FO can fill this off season. It may be unlikely, but not impossible, that the FO can fill many. And if they do there's a chance the D and a running game can be upgraded enough to achieve a winning record, perhaps even the playoffs. On the other hand most teams play with a certain amount of weakness here and there, even among the starters, and the FO does not have a great track record that should lead anyone to assume they will be filling them all in one off season. Not this many. Most likely is a few holes will be filled, enough to avoid a collapse, but not enough to put together a winning team. Somewhere in the middle in other words.
2012 is already shot unless the Jets catch a lot of breaks in the draft and unexpected free agent opportunities. That's mainly because so many accommodations were made to 2010 and 2011. If the Jets shot their wad this year again it would be like having a popgun go off because that's about what they available at this point. What they need to compete next year is to have 4 or 5 draft picks become major contributors, including a couple of star caliber guys up top. They need a Dave Szott or Pete Kendall to become available unexpectedly to let them fill a spot on what will otherwise be a mediocre offensive line. They could use finding somebody like that on the other side of the trenches too, but those guys so rarely go free. An offensive lineman who is cut loose at 31 might well have a couple of very good years left in the tank. A defensive trench guy isn't let go at that age if he has much left. I'm really not expecting much though. The Jets long-term strategy hasn't changed since 2001. The results haven't changed much either. The Jets have just been more lucky with injuries lately. If you look at the Jets they go to ruin at the end of these runs. That's one of the likely outcomes next season.
The Jets were one win, and arguably a single play (i could name two individual plays in the broncos game alone) away from the playoffs in 2011 with all kinds of locker room BS going on, a clown of an offensive coordinator, an injured QB down the stretch and a LG who played most of the season with the left side of his upper body torn up. The previous two years they played well enough in the playoffs to make it to the AFCCG. If Sanchez has the tools to be a good QB in this league like many of us believe and Sparano doesn't have a ridiculous mutant offense like his predecessor I think the CS is good enough to get us into the dance. We have holes to fill like every team, and we should be able to fill some of them. Hopefully we can add a couple of difference makers in the draft.
The holes the Jets need to fill right now are in order of significance: RT, SS, ROLB, LG, FS, RILB, DT, WR, RB worth 150-200 carries, backup QB, big TE to block and a KR/PR who does not have fumble-itis. That's a lot of holes. Having 3 or 4 of them go unfilled will be enough to sink the Jets season again. Having a few other holes open up alongside them could cause a landslide down to the 4-12 area the Jets seem to settle at when things go wrong. If Nick Mangold, D'Brickashaw Ferguson or David Harris goes down next season this is a really bad team.
So you're saying the Jets have holes to fill prior to free agency and the draft. What you're also saying is that if they lose a star player to injury it will hurt. I got you. Maybe we can wait and see how the roster fills in before writing the eulogy on the 2012 season? You act like we just went 1-15.
I don't know if it's fair to say that the Jets have holes at all of those positions. Would it be nice to have upgrades at all of those positions? Sure, but that's in a perfect world. If they can nail at least the first 3 through the draft and FA I think the team will be fine next year. There are a number of guys already on the roster who will hopefully step up as well. With all the picks they have this year they should be able to get at least a few contributors out of it. The situation doesn't seem all that dire to me.
I'd be more positive about our chances to fill holes if we had the picks that go with 1-15. Nothing I saw in the way the Jets were assembled for last season suggests to me that the current management team has a clue about how to put together a good team. There's a growing body of evidence that says they don't and that we basically got lucky in 2009, had a single peak season opportunity in 2010 which fell short and are now on the shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 5 seasons progression. Consider: 2008 the Jets entire game plan was to bring in a few star vets and make a push that year. Favre, Faneca, Jenkins. 9-7. 2009 the plan was to draft a rookie QB and go to the Super Bowl... 2010 more star vets in Cromartie and Holmes to shore up the decisions of the prior two seasons. 2011 *more* star vets in Plaxico and Mason only the stars acquired in the preceding 3 seasons were mostly gone so it didn't matter much. 2012? I am having trouble seeing where anything that Tanny tries is going to make a difference unless he figures out how to reverse all the damage done to the roster by neglect/incompetence in the draft. A few star vets to shore things up? Yeah, whatever...
It's really kind of sad. It's been awhile since I've been this down on the Jets. The last time I was this unhappy going into free agency was 2005. The time before that was 2003 and I was happy going into free agency and totally aghast coming out of it when Bradway let the Skins pull his underpants up over his head and take Coles, Thomas and company. Then they traded up for the bowling ball with knives and I got my real darksider rep around here.
