NY Rangers 2011-2016 Season + Offseason Thread

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  1. TommyJ

    TommyJ Well-Known Member

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    great battle today, almost waited too long to turn it on there in the 3rd.
     
  2. talisaynon

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    Mcdongagh and Girardi are -2. Not good. Might be time to get them some rest before a playoff run?
     
  3. Fatman&Robin

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    Girardi especially looks tired. Torts has to ease their minutes before the playoffs.
     
  4. Poeman

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    Eh, it happens...But what a win...Not only is this rangers team skilled with young kids, but they have the toughness to rock into the playoffs.

    Bruins are mad.

    At least the Rangers found a way to shut this down against Boston...Wish Knicks would have done the same.
     
  5. talisaynon

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  6. Poeman

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    Straight boss :metal:
     
  7. Dirty6Sanchez

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    When I think of the perfect coach, I picture Torts. The guy is fucking awesome.
     
  8. talisaynon

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    Completely agree.

    http://www.hockeyrodent.com/
     
  9. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I'm all for resting up but I don't like the idea of telling the team not to play how they have played all season in the name of rest. If torts wants to start healthy scratching a few guys every game so that the guys on the outside looking in can get in there and take some of the beating I would be ok with that.

    The guys on the ice should be expected to play the way they have been coached to play every game.
     
  10. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    There shouldn't even be a discussion anymore about Lundqvist and the Vezina Trophy. I honestly think the guy should get serious consideration for the Hart.
     
  11. Poeman

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    He should, but they dont like giving that to goalies...Watch Malkin get it.

    Hopefully Henrik goes beast mode and makes it tougher for the league to decide
     
  12. GordonGecko

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    I thought he was a little bit shaky these past two games. Don't get me wrong, he's still the king, but he was off his game. No big deal as long as he plays like himself in the playoffs
     
  13. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Every now and then, Bleacher Report gets it right:

    NHL Trophy Watch: Why Henrik Lundqvist Should Win the Hart Trophy over MalkinBy Tom Urtz Jr(Featured Columnist) on February 28, 2012


    Henrik Lundqvist has had one of the most dominating seasons in NHL history, and he should be rewarded by receiving the Hart Trophy this June. Before you rebuke me and explain that Evgeni Malkin should win, let me explain that there is a trophy of similar prestige that should and will likely be awarded to "Geno."

    The Hart Memorial Trophy is defined as "the oldest and most prestigious individual award in hockey." It is awarded annually to the "player adjudged most valuable to his team" in the National Hockey League. It is the top individual award for a player to receive. In short, it is the MVP award.

    However, most people correlate an MVP trophy with being the best player. Evgeni Malkin is probably the best player in the league and will likely win the Ted Lindsay Award, which is handed out to the best player as determined by the players.

    When looking at the parameters of a most valuable player award, Henrik Lundqvist should immediately come to mind. He is the best player at the most important position in hockey. Goaltenders are a team's last line of defense and are often the foundation on which championships are built. Names like Martin Brodeur, Patrick Roy and Dominik Hasek are synonymous with greatness in the modern era.

    When looking at the New York Rangers' success, it is interesting to wonder where the team would be in the standings without Lundqvist. It is fair to say that the team has one of the best defensive corps in the league and that the Rangers have a well-regarded backup in Martin Biron, but it is impossible to ignore Lundqvist's earth-shattering numbers.

    Lundqvist has 30 wins so far this season and it is his seventh consecutive 30-win season to start his NHL career. That is an NHL record, and he is the only goaltender in league history to have ever accomplished it.



    When looking at the league leaders, Lundqvist is really dominating the spread:

    - First in save percentage (.940)

    - First in shutouts (eight)

    - Second in goals against (1.75)

    - Third in wins (30)

    - Least amount of goals surrendered (81)

    What is remarkable is that all of these numbers have been posted by Lundqvist despite ranking 13th overall in games played this season with 46 appearances overall.



    History Suggests Henrik Should Win

    With dominating numbers like this, Henrik should win the Hart considering Jose Theodore and Dominik Hasek posted inferior numbers in their Hart campaigns:


    Dominik Hasek

    - (1996-97) 37 wins, 2.27 GAA, .930 SV%, 5 SO

    - (1997-98) 33 wins, 2.09 GAA, .932 SV%, 13 SO


    Jose Theodore

    - (2001-02) 30 wins, 2.11 GAA, .931 SV%, 7 SO


    Projected End-of-the-Year Numbers for Lundqvist

    - (2011-12) 40 wins, 1.75 GAA, .940 SV%, 10 SO


    With Lundqvist on pace to win at least 40 games and maintain a goals-against average under 2.00 and a save percentage between .935-.940, Lundqvist will blow away the numbers that we deemed worthy for a Hart Trophy.



    Why Not Malkin?

    Evgeni Malkin is having a great season, but he's not the player who is most valuable to his team. Why is this the case? Last season, injuries marred the campaigns of Malkin, Sidney Crosby and Jordan Staal. As a result, the Penguins still made the postseason and set a franchise record for wins and points despite not having these stars. The team proved that they could win without Malkin.

    Conventional wisdom says that with Malkin, the Penguins should be at the top of the Eastern Conference. Even more so with James Neal and Jordan Staal contributing. Malkin has showed that he is the best player but not most valuable. History shows if you take Malkin away from the Penguins, they can still be successful. It is unlikely the same can be said about Lundqvist.

    Martin Biron may be a good backup, but most of his wins have come against weaker teams. There is no way the Rangers would have a nine-point lead in the conference with Biron as the No. 1 net minder.

    Yes, it is fair to say that last season is last season and that Malkin is dominating this year, but the team is only in fourth place. MVP's carry their teams and that is exactly what Henrik Lundqvist has done this season.

    Malkin will likely end up winning the Ted Lindsay Trophy due to the fact that he has had an amazing season, and he will likely win the Art Ross Trophy as well. Based on the parameters and description of the Hart Trophy, Malkin shouldn't win over Lundqvist.


    In all likelihood, the voters may still award Malkin the Hart Trophy because there is a bias when handing goalies the Hart Trophy. The same is evident for pitchers in baseball.

    It would be fair to say at this point, the Vezina Trophy is Lundqvist's to lose, but when a goaltender is having as dominating a season as Lundqvist is having, it is only fair to reward him with the Hart Trophy, as Lundqvist is the most valuable player to his team in the entire NHL.
     
  14. Poeman

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    Ive been saying to people, he is having one of the greatest years a goalie has ever had statistically
     
  15. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't pay he works for them, yesterday he sat in the TV booth with Doc Emrick and Eddie O....
     
  16. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Observations- Hank stole the win, Steps shot was perfect, Lucic is a bitch, Boomer was raggin' on him this morning, he fights Pruster, but won't fight Scott or Rupp, Girardi had the best hit of the game fuckin' KO'ing Luc-bitch on the boards in the Bruins end...we miss Cally!
     
  17. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    BTW, MSG was selling all Adult Sized Authentic Rangers Jerseys at 50% off at the game yesterday. Picked up a brand new Home Lundqvist for $177.
     
  18. GordonGecko

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    Maybe it's just me but unless that shirt came off Hank's back I prefer Chinese jerseys that look just as good for $20
     
  19. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Last year I got a Cally Alternative jersey for $48 with sewn on numbers and letters on dhgate.com, but I don't think they have them anymore...
     
  20. matt robinson 17

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