Addressing issue at safety

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    our team is unique with revis, cro, and wilson shutting down the other teams passing game and forcing them to throw to the TE's a lot more. Fn revis!!!
     
  2. biggundewayne63

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    eric smith needs to go back to being a backup. if you think we need to bring back jim leonhard after the two season enders hes had the bast two years your delusional. i would bring in an affordable vet stop gap type and draft two safeties and let those three duke it out for the two spots. i really like george iloka great size at 6'4 to help against the gronk types can prob be had in the 4th round.
     
  3. Sweet P

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    NFL network says that this is an extremely weak year for safeties in the draft....sound like our first option here would be bringing in a FA. Speed and height....who would be the best candidate?
     
  4. StreetFighterJet

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    Harrison Smith (tall white dude?) looked VERY good in the combine drills. He was one of the smoothest out of his back pedal and into his transitions. I was very very impressed, I hope the JEts look at him in the 2nd.
     
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    soh_vet Well-Known Member

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    How do you address the safety issue in a week class? Draft pass rushers. The extra seconds the safetys dont have to cover the better.
     
  6. TNJet

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    Janzen Jackson S 5th round. Off the field issues , yes. Do WR's fear him ,yes.
     
  7. JohnnyThaJet

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    If drafted will he start for this team? No.

    We need someone who can make an impact, not someone to hope does well in a few years.
     
  8. Phear

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    If Smith doesn't take a horrible angle, able to seal the edge, or isn't slower than shit on that 3rd down blitz against the broncos, tebow doesn't run in for a 30 yard game winning touch down.
     
  9. Phear

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    Is he practicing to take Juncs title though, or something far more sinister?
     
  10. Barcs

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    Why is Brodney Pool a free agent and Eric Smith signed until 2014? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Yeah safety is crazy this year with only Eric Smith left on the roster, and who knows if he'll be cut. If it boils down to Leonard vs Pool, I gotta say give Leonard a cheap one year deal, just for that mentor role, and also draft one. If we could cut Smith to sign Pool that would be cool too. Either way we have to draft one. We have very little money to spend so I can't really see us get any worthwhile FA safety, but we shall see. I wouldn't mind seeing the same squad minus smith, plus a draft pick and maybe Lowery. I guess it all depends on the money.
     
  11. StreetFighterJet

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    Just because it is a "weak class" doesn't mean that there aren't good prospects there to grab. Not every good player is drafted in the 1st round :)
     
  12. laxin

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    Or let cruz streak down the sideline only to let our playoff hopes disappear and let the Giants run away with the SB...
     
  13. nyjetsrule

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    no, but because of the weak class those good prospects you mention are all going to get over drafted. its going to be tough to get a solid safety prospect at a reasonable value in this draft.

    Guys like Barron, Iloka and Harrison Smith are going to be 2nd round draft picks even if none of them are going to be ready to really start day 1.
     
  14. GriffDog

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    With a weak draft class this year..why not lock up our safety position for a long time . If we free up a little more cap room we could sign Branch to play SS and then sign Michael Griffin to play FS. It sounds far fetched but it could be possible and since they are fairly young branch 25 and griffin 27 we could solidify an already impressive defensive back unit.

    If Sparano thinks he can use Hunter or Ducasse to work in his system then we can address the other needs via the draft..OLB..WR..ILB...RB..etc..

    the addition of these two veterans at SAFETY would make our defense an absolute power house. It's possible and maybe the right kind of crazy..
     
  15. RocklandJetsFan17

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    I think Eric Smith is a great player, just a terrible cover safety. Didn't he lead the team in tackles? They should convert him to linebacker.
     
  16. JohnnyThaJet

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    Cap space cap space cap space. These are free agents that could demand a fairly high amount of money per year, plus we need about 5 million to sign our rookies, and then retain guys like Maybin, Pouha, and others.
     
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    Agree that Pool is a little soft.

    However, I can play the game you just played too.

    If Jim Leonhard doesn't manage to tackle Witten at the 2 yard line in Week 1 (or if subsequently, Romo isn't Romo and fumbles), we lose that game because Smith gave up a 60 yard catch and got burned bad.

    If Eric Smith, positioned at deep safety in a Cover 4, actually had any discipline and didn't bite on play action, Welker doesn't get that 70 yard play to open the second half in Week 5. Not only is that the cardinal sin as deep safety in that position, but you are biting on the run against one of the most pass happy teams in the league when the score is still close.

    If Eric Smith knew how to properly take an angle on the QB who runs to his left more than anyone in the league, he doesn't get beat to the edge by Tebow and we at worst go to overtime with the Broncos.

    That's three crucial instances. I'm sure they're not the only ones either. Pool certainly has his limitations, but I'd rather have him in the defensive backfield than Smith.
     
  19. Burnz

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    Make a plaque! get to the Fucking QB stop worrying about the back end WIN THE FUCKING TRENCHES!!! Where is this team headed... Not playing like the new york fucking jets thats for sure... all this SHOW n no GO is annoying dont look towards any safeties ( this years draft at least ) rebuild the Trenches and go from there its where u win or lose the game
     
  20. PolygamyWinsChampionships

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    Maybe it's more of a litmus test. Say a poster is in a discussion about a certain aspect of the team and you're trying to assess his understanding of the situation. If they're on the same page, you have determined that poster may need to think things through a little more clearly, and you may choose to let your eyes roll past their posts in the future. If they just can't agree on the topic esp. ad nauseum, the other poster is probably pretty level headed and should hold a considered opinion.

    I agree with this 100%. Unfortunately it makes so much sense that my Green & White Pavlovian response is to assume that this is not the course of action that will be carried out by the organization in favor of the happy folly of half-measures. Just makes too much sense to allocate the scarce resources in a coherent manner it usually seems.

    The truth is probably that it's going to be perceived as a risky move to spend so much emphasis on the defense while seemingly haphazardly rolling out a patchwork offense every year. In the brutal New York media spotlight the natural tendency is for the guy in charge to not make moves that can be broadly criticized if the strategy backfires. It seems to be easier to pull the trigger from the couch is the idea.

    Still, what is the identity of THIS New York Jets team if not a jokingly, unnecessarily, nonsensically good cornerback unit? Next strongest identity? 4 (if you count half a Maybin and half a future Ellis and the like) players that do their job exceptionally well in the front seven. Wait, we can add a blue chip passrusher along the edge on the cheap in the draft this year to bring it up to 5 with the remaining 2 competent roleplayers? While retaining Maybin to get opposing offensive coordinator's pulling their hair out on a weekly basis? This defense is two TRULY proficient safeties and one passrusher away from being ungodly. People can say we're ground and pound or this and that all they want. Really we're a beastly defense making the most of a few crappy role players and an offense that can hopefully put a few first downs together often enough to get some points now and then. LET THE BIG DOG EAT THIS YEAR.



    This would usually be sound advice, but I think you're presenting a false choice in this particular instance. The Jets happen to be sitting here at a pick position and in a draft class where they can have their choice of premier linebacking options and probably not much else will look as attractive. Just by following BPA they can more or less end up with a player in the position of greatest need which happens to be the hardest of the 3 positions of defensive need to fill...dayummm.

    Then you take a strongish FA Safety class and all of a sudden we don't need to be bothered with this "invest one way or the other" mentality. We can draft for the long term core of the team with an outside or maybe middle linebacker. We can add free agent roleplayers in or near their prime to round out the unit. We can use the other picks to add either an immediate producer at O-line or WR at the very least, and stockpile much needed depth all day with our compensatory picks. If we can just lock up two really useful safeties we can finally have our cake and eat it too. Top two or three defense. Chance for Sanchez to shake off Schotty shell shock and make an identity for himself and that side of the ball. Possibilities.
     

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