Top free agents for next season

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    He obviously wouldn't be a long term solution, but it would be nice to go into the draft with a 2 starting quality OLB's so we're not handcuffed.
     
  2. Brunell's Debt

    Brunell's Debt New Member

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    Frankly, I'd take my chances with Hunter over Winston fucking Justice.
     
  3. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    RT that can't run block? The only thing worse than a RT that can't run block (and is a penalty machine) is a QB that can't throw.
     
  4. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Haha yeah seriously Winston Justice is a clown
     
  5. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    i wouldn't trust a guy named winston
     
  6. laxin

    laxin Active Member

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    Just a side note...

    Has anyone seen the photo of Landry recently? The guy is absolutely huge. He looks like a LB.
     
  7. BleedGreen4ever

    BleedGreen4ever Active Member

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    Now that we have some flexability and the tv money kicks in in a few years how does Mario Williams, Dwight Lowery, a Rt in the first ala the big guy from ohio state, and a reciever in the second maybe even trade up for a reciever they have their eye on sound? Sounds like a Tanny off season to me.
     
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    joeklecko New Member

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    To begin with, the Jets' need is not just for a "starting quality OLB" but for an elite pass rusher. Johnson is not that, not even close. If you have two starting quality OLBs, why even draft an OLB? Why not wait until they're both gone and then draft their replacements? They already have one JAG at OLB and needs that can't be adequately addressed only via the draft (S and RT). In that scenario it would be a crime and gross incompetence to sign a 31 year-old OLB who doesn't upgrade the position or pass rush at all instead of a FS or RT who could help the team a lot more.

    That just doesn't make sense, guy. There are times when it is good to pick up a vet as insurance. If the Jets didn't have any backups at all at OLB, then it might make sense to sign Johnson, but they do. If the Jets lost in the AFC Championship Game again last year, then it also would make sense to sign a vet to start. The thing is, they didn't. They didn't even make the playoffs, and there is going to be a good deal of change this year, so it really isn't necessary and doesn't make a lot of sense imo to waste most of what little cap $s they have on an older, slower player that in the grand scheme of things would probably be little improvement over Westermann or the rookie they draft, especially when you consider that he'd just take away from their development by taking reps that they need to get.
     
  9. joeklecko

    joeklecko New Member

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    No offense, but in all honesty, that sounds awful to me. Sounds like an "all in for win now" pile of crap to me that would kill the cap. Sign a big name, HUGE contract FA and Trade up? Are you kidding me? Your idea of improving the team is THE worst I've seen (and I've seen a lot of bad ones). That's the absolute worst way to try to build a team for the long haul. Tanny has already been doing that too much. That's why we have the holes we do now and no depth.
     
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    Like I said sounds like a Tanny offseason. I don't see how you think signing the most coveted free-agent, a 27 year old former first overall pick at a position of need for the next 6 years is a "win now" or a terrible idea. Our only pass-rusher is a former bust in Maybin, while our two starters are past 30 and on the way out in the next two years. A replacement is going to have to come.
    The TV money is going to boost the cap up to what some are saying more than $100 million more than what it is now, making this contract look like pennies compared to future baseball money contracts that will be handed out. Plus we have Tanny who ALWAYS, no matter what, finds a way to keep the cap managable.

    As far as trading up I said it was an option and one I would still look at. We need a number two receiving threat and after picking up our right tackle in the first, a starting second receiver is necessary and trading away a fourth round pick to move up a few slots in the second is not a great loss if we are targeting a guy like Sanu or maybe even more if we fall in love with Jeffreys, idk im not a talent evaluator. We will have plenty of picks this year because of comp picks and if the value is right i would do it, thats all.
     
  13. JetsUK

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    its a funny one- personally i think its a real risk for the Packers.

    flynn has a very small sample of games to look at and is clearly to some extent a product of the system - teams will look at what happened with Kolb and be very wary of handing flynn a blockbuster deal - in which case if he did get tagged by the packers what would there be to stop him sitting tight for a year - banking enough to set him up for life and then looking to hit the market the following year - there will always be teams that need a QB and who might be more willing to take a chance on flynn if it was not also going to cost them a high draft pick.
     
  14. boxorox

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    Eh, I think that if contract negotiations with the potential trading teams fall through or the recipient team is unable to reach an agreement with the tagged player the whole thing gets voided including the franchise tag.

    Not like they'd be losing the 16 million, they'd just be losing their trade-in value (obviously very considerable). Still the risk/reward is closer than you represent it.

    On an unrelated note:

    Cliff Avril for prez.
     
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    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    if he signs the franchise tag then its a binding contract surely?

    edit: from a Green Bay press report: Flynn might show some flexibility in contract negotiations to get a shot at a starting job, but he wouldn’t have to, so the tag would come with some risk for the Packers. Flynn no doubt would sign the tender, which would guarantee his $14.4 million salary for the season. That figure then would set the starting point for his long-term contract negotiations, because Flynn would want at least that much guaranteed by his new team. He might be looking for something like Kolb’s $21 million guarantee.
     
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  16. boxorox

    boxorox Banned

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    I think I misread from the source. "If the club withdraws their offered contract the player reverts to a UFA". Maybe that means the team that's interested in trading withdrawing their offer rather than the tagging club.
     
  17. ScotsJet

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    They can't rescind the tag if he's signed it.
     
  18. boxorox

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    Thanks for clarifying.
     
  19. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    The Jets have too many holes to fill and then waste picks trading up.

    That really says it all. End of story.
     
  20. Royce Parker

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    I don't get it. Why would that be awful?
     

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