What are the chances a team would pick up our sixteen, and trade us their 2nd round pick plus their later first? Im assuming that it is too much to ask for. What would our pick cost? Someone elses late 1st plus maybe their Third round?
according to the trade value charts, this scenario could work out by trading with a team between picks 26-31. since the pats hold two of these picks, that pretty much leaves the texans, 49ers, packers, and ravens as potential trade partners. if floyd of jeffery fall to 16 you can be san francisco will be the first ones to pick up the phone. also, there's a decent chance that the texans will be looking for a replacement for williams and might want to trade up. i think the packers will end up getting either the dolphins or redskins 1st rounder for flynn, so they likely will not be trying to trade up.
a trade with the 49ers would give leave us with picks @ #30, #48, and #62 in the first two rounds if i'm not mistaken.
Interesting, it's probably wishful thinking on my part for a team to part with their late 1st and second for are 16th.
While I understand the desire to trade down, I don't see this as a good year for us to do it. There should be an elite option for us some position of need at 16, be it and OLB, WR, or OL. There is a bit of risk involved in the player/s your expect to be around in 10 picks may get scouped up.
Another valuation I like is for a team looking for a quarterback. A lot of teams jump back into the first to get one and someone may want Tanneyhill etc. If I do the math right, a team like Seatle or Wash could give a second, third, and next years second or third. I figure the points for next year as half of this years value since you have to wait a year for the pick. I think that is ballpark what teams do.
its possible - who would have thought the Saints would have given up their second round pick and this years first round pick to get the #28 overall pick last year and that to take a RB.
I think that it all depends on the situation at our pick and who is left/has been selected. Anything could happen and this is the reason that the Draft is worth watching!
I'm all for a trade down, been waiting on one for what seems like forever. Would fill a whole lot of needs with all players being equal.
No its not, thats the value that its worth. To go from the mid first to the end of the 1st is definitely worth a 1st and 2nd. Possibly even us getting a 4th/5th and giving up a 5th or 6th as well
I would absolutely love to move down to the late first and pickup an additional second in the process. We could really use a few early picks this year. I think there may be a couple of realistic chances of this happening, even if it is unlikely. I saw some people asking about value, but no one posted this yet, so here it is. http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
most commentators dont think that the Packers will franchise tag and trade Flynn and so it seems likely that Flynn will go where he wants as a UFA personally I would be surprised if the packers let him walk for nothing but that seems to be the consensus view
I think they'll definitely tender him at least at a first round level, if not first and third compensation level.
Unless im missing something Flynn is an UFA not an RFA. So its either he walks or he gets franchise tagged. No tenders involved
Oops! You're right. My bad. I doubt they'll just let him walk and settle for a 3rd round compensatory pick. I think they'll franchise him then trade him for something less than the two first round picks.
With Finley a FA as well it is highly unlikely they use the franchise tag on Flynn, unless of course they sign Finley long term before hand. As for the topic at hand, every year everyone wants to trade down. I just don't see that as a good possibility this year or the right one. Of course a lot will change between now and the draft but we look to be in a great spot to fill a need with a great prospect, whether its OLB or WR or maybe even RB, a great prospect wil most likely be available at 16.
Pretty much my thoughts on the matter. There are too many potential impact players projected to be available at 16 that also fill NEED positions for us to pass up.
Assuming they went with the non-exclusive tag that would mean Flynn could cash in over $16m just riding the bench for a year - so would he be willing to move unless someone was going to offer him a multi-year Kolb style deal (and would someone offer that for a guy with two starts that was not a highly touted prospect out of college?) its a big risk for the packers as they would be fucked under the cap if they couldnt move him
You may be right, but imo Finley isn't all that. He has problems staying healthy and drops too many passes. I think they'd be nuts to franchise Finley and lose Flynn for nothing. When one trades down, one is almost always losing out on a great prospect. The thing is, that one still gets a very good player, PLUS another very good player. Two very good players can have a greater impact on a team's play when both fill holes or upgrade important positions, than just one supposedly great player. Almost no players are immune to being a bust. By getting two players instead of one, you increase the chances of improving your football team, and decrease the chances of coming away with nothing.
