Holmes to stay with Jets

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Maybe not, but it was really the Jets only option. Bringing in someone else to take the heat of the secondary off Holmes would help quite a bit IMO.
     
  2. gizmo253

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    Alshon Jeffery could step in day 1 as a young reciever and start building some chemistry with Sanchez.

    We all complain about the rotating door at WR, but the truth is with Holmes locked down (hopefully with a fixed attitude), Kerley only being in his 2nd year (1st full training camp), and a young stud (jeffery??). We will have a great core of receivers for the future! Instead of trying to grab a FA like Reggie Wayne or Brandon Lloyd and than having to consistently address the issue every 2-3 years, we need to build through the draft.

    That being said I wouldnt be too surprised for the Jets to make a move to get Richardson. If you look at Sparano he has always placed a huge importance on having a Blue Chip RB. And we all know Tanny has no problem trading away picks....
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I'd be happy with Floyd, Jeffery, Sanu, Randle - it's possible any of those guys could be had in the first couple of rounds by the Jets.
     
  4. Br4d

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    If it really was the Jets only option then they should have fired Tannenbaum before they did it. Holmes was a player that a great organization had already given up on because he was a toxic personality to manage. Giving him a guaranteed deal was aggravated mismanagement.
     
  5. Royce Parker

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    Trolling? OK, whatever you say. I'm not the one who goes into every thread with the agenda of trying to come up with a reason that Sanchez is to blame for whatever happens to be the issue at hand. He's certainly deserving of plenty of criticism for his poor play this year but you seem to find a way to pin every conceivable problem on him. Just calling bullshit when I see it.
     
  6. SienaSaints

    SienaSaints Well-Known Member

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    I am fine with this. First of all Holmes is not big enough or fast enough to command double teams but he does have a specific skill set and can catch balls that are thrown at him. Second I know for a fact that a lot of Holmes' issues were with Schotty and the offensive scheme and not all just because of Dirty Sanch. I would love to get a receiver who can stretch the field and allow Holmes to play his game.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I don't like Holmes at all. That said, there was no way the Jets were landing him last season without giving him guaranteed money. No way. By all reports, he was a good soldier with the Jets in 2010 and everyone loved him from Sanchez all the way to Rex. Unfortunately he turned back into the hood version when he got his money.
     
  8. Biggs

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    It kind of looks like that however Rex made the guy a captain not exactly on all Tanny.

    Tanny is an interesting guy, essentially a lawyer and accountant who hired a freind who was a very strict coach. He unloads him after an all out attempt to win a SB in 08 when they needed to sell tickets to the new stadium. Bring in Rex who is the exact opposite who goes out and sells the team in the market like it was a Circus act. A couple of mediocre drafts and the crosstown rivals winning the trophy out of nowhere and this team is realing a bit.

    I'm not sure Tanny is at fault or if Tanny is simply a tool of Woody's.
     
  9. Br4d

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    It should be a rule of thumb that when people get comfy they revert to their roots.

    The thing that has me really pissed off about this move is that I think it comes close to guaranteeing the Jets will have a bad locker room next season and only a few teams have ever won off of that type of drama.
     
  10. colleen74

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    You know.... Sanchez could also be the dick here and refusing to throw to him because he doesn't like him. If that's the case, then Holmes is not really the problem and is just reacting to shitty circumstances of having to deal with a dick who is treated like a princess by everyone around him.

    Not saying that is the case, but you never know. He DID diss that guys kid last year after all :wink:
     
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  11. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    get someone who an stretch the field and take the safeties deeper and Holmes is one of the best wr's in the game at short , underneath/crossing routesare excellent and his hands are excellent

    Is he a whiny bitch ..probably but aren't 99% of good Wrs
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    This is a total lie. I talk most of the time about things other than Sanchez, and have often recognized other problems with the O, even with BS. You just don't like anyone saying anything bad about your inept hero.
     
  13. Big Blocker

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    The FACT is that Holmes has no prior history as a locker room cancer. No one ever before this past year accused him of being a lousy teammate. The Jets in fact thought so much of him in 2010 that they paid him tons of money to come back as an FA.

    He got dumped by Pitt for his off the field problems and in the context of the Ben the Rapist PR problem. Either you knew that and are just following your usual practice of hating on a Jet player who is not a fan of Sanchez or you are not paying attention.

    And the Jets are a bad organization without a clue? I would agree with you if you mean the way they coddle Sanchez.
     
  14. Br4d

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    Oh come on, you've been trolling about Sanchez since the real troubles began in Denver. I'll bet if I went and looked up all your posts since then the word Sanchez would be in about 80% of them.
     
  15. maynardsmyhero-uk

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    Holmes has always delivered on the field but been a dickhead off it...Schotty is the worst OC he has been with and the fact that the only route he had Holmes run was the usual slant was enough to piss anyone off
     
  16. The Dark Knight

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    Can Holmes win back the Jets fans in 2012? Yes, but won't be easy. I hope keeping Holmes does not hurt the locker room, but I think it will. People don't just change. Pittsburgh traded a Super Bowl MVP for a 5th rounder for a reason. This is Tanny's fault.
     
  17. Br4d

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    Holmes was doing that ridiculous 1st down thing at the end of 2009 when the Steelers were losing 5 in a row to fall out of the playoff race.

    And yeah, the Jets are a bad organization without a clue at this point. They got a lift out of the nasty coach/player's coach thing in 09 and 10 but that's all over and they're really likely to go 8-8 or worse next season because Rex does not have a clue how to fix what's wrong with the team.

    The patented Rex method of talking people up isn't going to work because nobody believes a word he says now. The adding dicey talent cheap won't work either because that locker room is so screwed up at this point that throwing another bad actor or two into the mix is just adding fuel to the fire.

    The Jets can't trade up again for a surefire thing because they have too many holes to let that work again.

    It's sad but I think we're going to see gravity take hold next season and the Jets dragged down by it.
     
  18. The Dark Knight

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    The Jets lost 1 more game than the Giants this year and lost so many winnable games its crazy. So to assume the Jets are in a free fall makes no sense. Add a few pieces, play smarter O, D and Special Teams (Which won't be so hard since they were so bad in 2011) and the Jets will be fine. People keep forgetting this team was 8-8 after all the crap this year. Make a few moves and just play better and as a team and the Jets can compete for a ring in 2012.
     
  19. Big Blocker

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    Me neither, but one thing I am sure about is he is not a top tier GM.

    And in case anyone cares to notice, your middle paragraph is a great example of the use of the word and concept "interesting" as a value neutral term. If not a negative one. I could frankly do without the things that make Tanny "interesting".
     
  20. Big Blocker

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    Wrong again. But you are welcome to knock yourself out trying to make that case.

    "Trolling about Sanchez" = saying anything nasty about your boy.
     

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